I think you'll find China is trying to cut its pollution, particularly* air
pollution, and succeeding to some extent. Basically it has to, because the
problem is so bad that it's severely impacting health and production.

http://www.greenpeace.org/eastasia/specials/gpm04/fierce-fight-gdp-air/

*an environmental pun, what next?


On 23 April 2014 09:04, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:

> Yeah, it will be costly whether we live or die. It's better to focus on a
> techno fix rather than social engineering by red-greens, and the uber
> rich.  If we want to reduce heating, then reduce CO2, methane, water vapor.
> Easier said then done, but what isn't?
>
> The military industrial complex was a feature on both sides of the old
> cold war, and china, for example has not renounced its weapons expansion,
> nor pollution. Peace, by behavior, has to be a two way street. One side
> cannot do peace while the other pursues war. Look no further than the Putin
> grab of the Ukraine for a timely example. Your values, are not Putin's
> values, which is why we have war.
>
> Probably, if people get focused on intermediate rewards that are greater
> than what war brings, we could have peace. But those rewards better occur,
> otherwise its revolution and war.
>
>
> You sound confused. By tax payer funded gravy train did not seem to be
> focusing in on the more or less permanent state of war – the war on terror
> --  that the military industrial complex has profited so nicely from… In
> the amount of trillions of dollars. If you want to start talking about
> government gravy trains why not begin with the elephant in the room. You
> focus too much – IMO – on the wee little mice (in the world of government
> subsidy) and fail to notice the four hundred pound hogs.
> Chris
>
>   -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>
> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 21, 2014 10:08 pm
> Subject: RE: cannabis, cancer and mechanism, and climate.
>
>
>
> *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [
> mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com<everything-list@googlegroups.com?>]
> *On Behalf Of *spudboy...@aol.com
>
>  Simply put, we need better energy technology, for energy and climate
> remediation, and not better government dictatorship, who, are all looking
> out for us all. If climate scientists want to pile on to the tax payer
> funded gravy train, that is incidental. If they have some solutions to
> propose, beyond proposing green fascist rules for the serfs, then I will
> listen. The Reich, the Soviets, and Mao, had brilliant scientists working
> for them too. Piling-on doesn't sell, solutions do.
>
> You sound confused. By tax payer funded gravy train did not seem to be
> focusing in on the more or less permanent state of war – the war on terror
> --  that the military industrial complex has profited so nicely from… In
> the amount of trillions of dollars. If you want to start talking about
> government gravy trains why not begin with the elephant in the room. You
> focus too much – IMO – on the wee little mice (in the world of government
> subsidy) and fail to notice the four hundred pound hogs.
> Chris
>
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