On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 26 Apr 2014, at 19:23, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 6:38 PM, 'Chris de Morsella <[email protected]>' > via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Telmo Menezes >> >> >> >> http://infinitemachine.tumblr.com/image/83867790181 >> >> >> >> A nice weekend to everyone! >> >> >> >> Nice graph; that gives a refreshing perspective on religion... as a human >> evolution of cultural behavior and norms, similar to say how language has a >> nice tree going back in time. >> > > Indeed. It seems plausible that religions are local maxima of cooperation > strategies. In recent History (compared to the time scale of this graph), > attempts to engineer new cooperation strategies require the removal of > existing religions. This was the case in both the communist revolutions > (Bolshevik and Maoist) and the enlightenment revolutions (American and > French). But naturally evolved religions are highly-adapted, resilient > organisms. > > > > Very nice graph. I appreciate the remark below it, which asks for some the > grains of salt. > > I am not sure we can eliminate a religion, but we can substitute it by > another (better or worst) religion. > Perhaps it's useful to make the distinction between religion as the social construct and religion as the private experience. > > "cooperation strategies" needs some goal/sense, for which the cooperation > makes sense, and such goal refer to some implicit or explicit religion or > reality conception, I think. > I'm not so sure... Maybe our goals can be traced back to simple things selected by evolution, that all relate to survival + replication. Then it all collapses into complexification, and the goals only exist when seeing from the inside -- the species, organism, etc. This can lead to a view of public religion as more of a consequence than a cause. Maybe we have the potential to transcend biology, but I believe that remains to be seen. > Nice to see buddhism and taoism there, but where is (strong) > atheism/materialism? Hmm.... :) > The graph says v1.1, so maybe you can issue a bug report :) Where would you say it branches from, in that tree? Telmo. > > Bruno > > > > > Telmo. > > >> Chris >> >> >> >> Telmo.. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
