On 27 Apr 2014, at 01:15, meekerdb wrote:
On 4/26/2014 1:43 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In the arithmetical reality there are two kinds of place we can
access, those where we keep our memories, and those where we don't.
Both are infinite in numbers, but have different relative measure.
Apparently (salvia reports) we can abandon all memories, and then
retrieve them. How can we be sure we retrieve the correct one?
Suppose you retrieved the wrong ones, say mine. You would
presumably feel, "I remember racing motorcycles, but that's not the
sort of thing I'd like to do. I'm not even sure I know how to do it."
Well, I meant you lost all memories (and *particular* personality
traits) and get all the other one. The question does not make sense,
but in some salvia hallucination this can happens slowly, so when you
come back to remember having been someone-else, and then getting piece
by piece "your" memory, back, still keeping in some background the
other memories.
If this is done quickly, or under anesthesia, it becomes equivalent
with a teleportation.
This is probably the feeling of people who have multiple
personalities when they are able to remember what they did when
their other personality was in charge.
Possibly. With salvia it might be closer to the Jouvet explanation of
simultaneous dreams: an inhibition of the corpus callosum.
Then for people having good relation between the left and right brain,
the conversation go on, but only indirectly through the limbic
systems. The "Lady Sally" might be the left brain (may be the one
handling the "& p" in []p & p) "seen" by the the left brain (the one
handling only []p) through the limbic system.
Some scientists pretend that woman have a more efficacious corpus
callosum. That might explain why on youtube woman seems to make better
trips than man, but of course young male might also be more probe to
picture themselves in spectacular conditions. I dunno. I am not sure
if that theory of woman having bigger or better corpus callosum has
been confirmed or is controversial.
Notice that this is a reason to consider the material body more
fundamental than consciousness.
You are quick here. Material bodies are divine hypotheses.
There might be too much dreams in arithmetic, but like in Everett QM,
it could be *because* there are many infinitely long dream, that the
physical, observable measure can emerge.
I don't know the truth, I just say, let us do the math and the test.
The math of provability (with truth and/or consistency explicit or
implicit conditioning, provides the needed representation theorem of
quantum logic in modal logic, and of modal logic(s) in Peano (say)
arithmetic; leading to an arithmetical quantum logic that we can
compare with the empiric quantum logic.
Bruno
Brent
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