On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 5:17 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/26/2014 4:25 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 1:07 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 4/26/2014 1:43 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> Nice to see buddhism and taoism there, but where is (strong) >>> atheism/materialism? Hmm.... :) >>> >> >> The graph says v1.1, so maybe you can issue a bug report :) >> Where would you say it branches from, in that tree? >> >> >> I would say from the greeks, and then in some growing percentage of the >> abramanic religions. (But it certainly occurs also elsewhere, like notably >> in some branch of Hinduism and Buddhism). >> >> >> To complete the tree you would need to start further down (a tap root?) >> where science, magic, and religion were all the same thing. Modern >> atheism, since the Elightenment is mainly an embrace of science and a >> rejection of the revelatory religion and so would branch off around >> Galileo. Magic is still around and connects to Voodoo and some other >> "religions" that use ritual to control "the gods", but science has been >> even more corrosive of magic than religion. It just works a lot better. >> > > There is the atheist/agnostic position, that I share, that rejects > deities -- or find as much reason to believe in them as in any other > unfalsifiable claim. But then there are atheists that have strong believes > that feel religious again. One example is the strong belief that > consciousness is a byproduct of matter. This is a common belief nowadays. > To be fair, it seems to be a belief "by default" by educated people. > > > Wouldn't you say there's more evidence for that than the contrary? > I don't see it, but maybe it's a limitation on my part. I consider that hypothesis too. Telmo. > > Brent > > > I have confronted some friends with the implications of this belief and > they seem to change easily to "I don't know" when thinking more deeply > about it. But other people are strongly attached to it. > > Telmo. > > >> >> Brent >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
