On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>wrote:

> 2014-05-21 11:08 GMT+02:00, LizR <[email protected]>:
> > On 21 May 2014 20:50, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> All these fanfarres and grandiloquent terms that sanctifies the
> >> holiness of science are nothing but cavemen in search for something to
> >> worship
> >>
> >> In that case I'm happy to worship my well lit and heated house, my
> >> washing
> > machine, dishwasher, oven, clothes, car, contraception, computer, and all
> > the other things that have been discovered in the course of this search.
> >
>
> For sure.
>
> And your smarphone and your car, with which you sometimes talk and
> miss when you are away.
>
> That is also part of the primitive animism.
>
> However, the inventions and technology does not come form science it
> is the other way: techniques created by artisans with intuition and
> essay-error precedes science ever.
>
> The wright brothers were bicycle artisans. Fulton was not a professor
> of termodynamics. Their sciences did not exist at his time. was their
> machines the ones that possibilitated the experiences and the
> experiments.
>
>  Nassim Taleb talks a lot about it
>
>
> http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324735104578120953311383448
>
> "Consider Britain, whose historic rise during the Industrial
> Revolution came from tinkerers who gave us innovations like iron
> making, the steam engine and textile manufacturing. The great names of
> the golden years of English science were hobbyists, not academics:
> Charles Darwin, Henry Cavendish, William Parsons, the Rev. Thomas
> Bayes. Britain saw its decline when it switched to the model of
> bureaucracy-driven science.
>
> America has emulated this earlier model, in the invention of
> everything from cybernetics to the pricing formulas for derivatives.
> They were developed by practitioners in trial-and-error mode, drawing
> continuous feedback from reality. To promote antifragility, we must
> recognize that there is an inverse relationship between the amount of
> formal education that a culture supports and its volume of
> trial-and-error by tinkering. Innovation doesn't require theoretical
> instruction, what I like to compare to "lecturing birds on how to
> fly."
>
> That mythical  inversion is, logically an ideological product of
> rationalism that understand that there is nothing in the human mind
> that gives truth with the exception of conscious rational rules, all
> comes from outside in the form of rules created by special,
> enlightened people.
>
> So a bicycle artisan can never invent an airplane, a person can not
> learn English without knowing grammar. no one can  play an instrument
> without knowing the musical notation. And no one can learn a
> discipline without interiorizing their academic, antipedagogical,
> harsh manuals full of formulae, pedantic notations and formalisms
> devoid of humanity, history and contact with reality.
>

Alberto,

I have a lot of sympathy for what you say here and I feel a similar angst
against bureaucratic science and pedantic formalisms and notations. And
modern education. It tries to kill the ability to dream, to be outrageous
and unreasonable. It tries to kill the good stuff.

One linguistic symptom is the obsession with "innovation", which is a sort
of decaffeinated, defanged version of "invention". Mostly harmless, as
everything should be these days.

Telmo.


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