On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:12 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 8 June 2014 15:43, spudboy100 via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I do know what I am criticizing, and view Marx and Engels claims in >> Manifesto, and Das Kapital as nothing more than deliberate lies to defer >> just criticism, especially, when viewed in the light of Marx and Engels, >> quotes, journals, and articles. The withering away concept was deliberately >> used as sop, to those who Marx knew would grow weary of state oppression. >> Just a little longer and then it will be perfect, everyone will be a >> Barron, and master of their own world. The Castro regime still uses it as >> an excuse for economic stagnation. As C. Northcoate Parkinson said, "Delay >> is the most deadly form of denial." > > > OK, I take it back. That's a valid viewpoint. (I don't know if there is > evidence to support it?) >
I would say that this viewpoint is validated empirically: all attempts at marxist societies devolved into authoritarianism. Lenin famously said: "While the state exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no state." I have no reason to assume he wasn't being honest. It's just that it doesn't work. But it is perhaps incorrect to claim that early marxist philosophers desired authoritarianism. Telmo. -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
