On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:12 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 8 June 2014 15:43, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> I do know what I am criticizing, and view Marx and Engels claims in >> Manifesto, and Das Kapital as nothing more than deliberate lies to defer >> just criticism, especially, when viewed in the light of Marx and Engels, >> quotes, journals, and articles. The withering away concept was deliberately >> used as sop, to those who Marx knew would grow weary of state oppression. >> Just a little longer and then it will be perfect, everyone will be a >> Barron, and master of their own world. The Castro regime still uses it as >> an excuse for economic stagnation. As C. Northcoate Parkinson said, "Delay >> is the most deadly form of denial." > > > OK, I take it back. That's a valid viewpoint. (I don't know if there is > evidence to support it?) >
I would say that this viewpoint is validated empirically: all attempts at marxist societies devolved into authoritarianism. Lenin famously said: "While the state exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no state." I have no reason to assume he wasn't being honest. It's just that it doesn't work. But it is perhaps incorrect to claim that early marxist philosophers desired authoritarianism. Telmo. -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
