On 13 Jun 2014, at 15:41, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:39, Telmo Menezes wrote:
The inconceivable freedom is in your heart, but give time to time,
You are right and I'll shut up now :)
Please don't shut up!
As long as we stay polite the fun is in the conversation, ... in
the detours sometimes.
My main motivation for shutting up here is that I fully agree, but
sometimes forget, that freedom is 1p.
I do feel bad for going off-topic. I think that you and others, who
contribute a lot to the main topic of this mailing list, deserve
more leeway than me in going off-topic. So since you're asking, I
feel comfortable with arguing a bit more.
(I was being sarcastic when I said the politician "misspeak". I was
referring to the sort of doublespeak and euphemisms they employ. Of
course they lie.)
The reason why I suspect that democracy is not stable, is that it
might always degrade to a Keynesian beauty contest. Modern democracy
originated from enlightenment ideals, of raising human potential --
raising the average. The trouble is that, the best strategy to win
elections is to pander to the average. A political movement that
attempts to raise the average will lose to the Keynesian beauty
contest players in the long term. So I am arguing that democracy
contains in itself the evolutionary pressure that generates its own
demise. I hope I'm missing something.
Democracies are not stable, like all living beings are not stable, and
somehow they always generate their own demises. But we make children
and dialogs, and we can hope, and work for, that the children will not
commit our mistakes.
I see democracy as the zero stage of democracy, and it is well capable
of making us see the omega stars, but like a rocket, it is unstable,
and it can crash ,just after starting, ... so well, we build a new
rocket and try again, hoping we fix the preceding mistake, a bit like
in the "crash investigation series".
No reason to fear the average, as the average cultivated man like the
differences and can respect different life styles. In a non-democracy
you get mafias all the time, in democracy you get mafia only when the
democracy is sick. Democracies are young on this planet, you just miss
again the time factor. Of course it is our work and responsibility to
denounce the injustice, but today the net is useful for that. Let us
keep it that way!
Bruno
Best,
Telmo.
Thanks
I thank you,
Bruno
it is not that easy when we are two, saying nothing about three and
more.
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