On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:21 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 8 June 2014 22:30, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:12 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 8 June 2014 15:43, spudboy100 via Everything List < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I do know what I am criticizing, and view Marx and Engels claims in >>>> Manifesto, and Das Kapital as nothing more than deliberate lies to defer >>>> just criticism, especially, when viewed in the light of Marx and Engels, >>>> quotes, journals, and articles. The withering away concept was deliberately >>>> used as sop, to those who Marx knew would grow weary of state oppression. >>>> Just a little longer and then it will be perfect, everyone will be a >>>> Barron, and master of their own world. The Castro regime still uses it as >>>> an excuse for economic stagnation. As C. Northcoate Parkinson said, "Delay >>>> is the most deadly form of denial." >>> >>> >>> OK, I take it back. That's a valid viewpoint. (I don't know if there is >>> evidence to support it?) >>> >> >> I would say that this viewpoint is validated empirically: all attempts at >> marxist societies devolved into authoritarianism. >> > > And Marx would have know that how, exactly? > > The claim is that Marx and Engels "used the withering away concept as a > sop" because Marx "knew people would grow weary of state oppression" (see > quote above). > > That is the claim I am asking for evidence for. >
Sorry Liz, I misread. I agree with you, I don't think there is any evidence that Marx's work was written in bad faith. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
