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 From: meekerdb <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Solar power's "bright future"
 


On 6/20/2014 6:10 PM, LizR wrote:

That raptor rocket surely doesn't have much higher delta V than, say, the 
Saturn 5? No chemical reaction is going to be that much more efficient, no 
matter that you turn it into a superheated flying bomb. Surely for human 
exploration beyond the Moon you really need (a) a moon base, (b) and orbital 
assembly plant supplied from the moon base, and (c) some form of nuclei/ion 
propulsion for your long haul space craft (which also need shielding, of 
course!) 
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>
>Or use chemical propellant to rendezvous with one of those asteroids I 
>mentioned, then sit back and wait out the 9 months or so to Mars. (Preferably 
>installing a permanent base in the asteroid, which effectively becomes a mars 
>shuttle.)
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>I wish I could type this without my hands shaking with excitement. We're 
>actually trying to go to Mars!!!!!!
>
Sending people to Mars would be a huge waste of resources.  Any
    exploration can be done by robots and remote control.  Almost all
    terra forming would better be done remotely *before* trying to send
    people.  People are heavy and take lots of support and you *still*
    have to send the probes and instruments.

Sure... and I agree with you, logistically it makes no sense. However where's 
the fun in sending probes... it is hard to get a dream going on the basis of 
sending a probe to Mars.... colony ships heading off to another world... now 
that is something that can fire the imagination.
Not disputing your observation at all -- and I agree on the level of reason, 
but my gut, my emotion wishes to see our species become an interplanetary space 
faring species inhabiting many moons, asteroids and worlds.
Cheers,
Chris

Brent

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