On 04 Jul 2014, at 19:10, John Clark wrote:

On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> god is not quite the same thing than a tea-pot.

Very true, a teapot may not exist in orbit around the planet Uranus but at least teapots do exist in other places, but God doesn't exist anywhere.

> In science we very often enlarge the sense of a term,

Enlarging the sense of a term is OK until the term becomes so enormous that it embraces everything and then it becomes utterly useless; contrast is needed for meaning so the term "everything is a religion" is equivalent to "nothing is a religion". In fact "everything is X" is equivalent to "nothing is X".

But not everything is a religion, even with the enlarged definition.




> I define theology by the study of the truth about you and not-you,

Being that you are the only one on the planet who defines theology in that way it makes communication difficult; and that's the trouble with inventing your own personal language, just look at all the confusion that "comp", "free will", all your silly acronyms and "God" has caused.

> You criticize a lot Aristotle, but you seems to behave like if you are unable to doubt its theology.

Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never heard that one before, at least I never heard it before I was 12.

> You did not answer my question. What is your 'religion'.

As you would have known if you had been paying attention, I have no religion.

> Don't tell in which Gods you don't believe. Tell me the one in which you do believe.

I believe in no Gods.

> tell me if you believe in a primitively existing physical reality, or if you are open to the possibility that the fundamental reality is arithmetic

If I were religious I'd give you an answer to that question because religious people think they know the answers to all of life's mysteries, but I'm not so I won't. I don't know if the laws of logic demand that the physical world exist, maybe yes maybe no, but I do know that if you keep insisting on equating the ASCII sequence "God" with the ASCII sequence "Arithmetic" you're never going to be able to communicate with your fellow Human beings because people will refuse to learn a new language just so they can talk to you.

You just confirm that atheism is unable to conceive a theology different from the Christian one, and that atheists defends the same Dogma than the Christians.

Bruno






  John K Clark









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