I am good on Reason mag stuff, Telmo, and I did mention trying other things. But the non-total war thing also should be on the table. Let the Jihad know what they face, and this is one reason, one less incentive, for them to attack. This was my original pov, which caused one poster here to become irrational, because it offends his ideology. It may be the only way forward for the survival of (whatever we have governing us now, corporartism + free speech????), versus, Sharia, allied, temporarily, with the billionaires of China and Russia. These guys don't seem reluctant to die in battle, and there must be an alternative to annihilation (maybe) or capitulation. On the other hand, not considering extremes may be a civilizational suicide pact. I have listened in past years to different political thinkers like Bruce Bueno Di Mosquito, but am not convinced it does one thing important, work.
In reality, a terrorist who is willing to die for their cause has billions of options available. It is essentially impossible to protect yourself against someone who is willing to die to harm you. Even more so if the "you" is fluid: any american civilian will do. The fact that so few people die each year on terrorist attacks strikes me as strong evidence that there is no credible threat. Telmo. -----Original Message----- From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 4:35 am Subject: Re: Re: Re: American Intelligence On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:38 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Well, my question is, are you automatically, dismissing jihadi terrorism as a chimera, a false threat, a non-issue? http://reason.com/archives/2011/09/06/how-scared-of-terrorism-should "Taking these figures into account, a rough calculation suggests that in the last five years, your chances of being killed by a terrorist are about one in 20 million. Thiscompares annual risk of dying in a car accident of 1 in 19,000; drowning in a bathtub at 1 in 800,000; dying in a building fire at 1 in 99,000; or being struck by lightning at 1 in 5,500,000. In other words, in the last five years you were four times more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist." You could argue that this is because of the security apparatus that the US has created, but that just doesn't seem credible. The security apparatus only protects you against previous scenarios. Some idiot tried to get in a plane with explosive shoes, so now we have to take off our shoes to board a plane. Some tried a bottle, so now we have to throw away liquids. It's what Bruce Schneier refers to as "movie-plot threats": https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/seventh_movie-p.html In reality, a terrorist who is willing to die for their cause has billions of options available. It is essentially impossible to protect yourself against someone who is willing to die to harm you. Even more so if the "you" is fluid: any american civilian will do. The fact that so few people die each year on terrorist attacks strikes me as strong evidence that there is no credible threat. Telmo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
