Sure, even under Bush, Terror won, for the simple fact he was reluctant to even name the enemy. Terrorism is a method, and not a person, and as you point out, and BHO and his party, come from a nuanced, progessivist, view, of focusing on a 'social democracy' which provides goods and services for the public, and also, the difficulty, paying for such goods and services. Better to tend one's own garden, then 'waste' needed public monies, and blood, on useless, foreign wars, eh? The political realm, is now ruled by the billionaires, worldwide. You mentioned one time, about your opinion about the folks at Davos (the meetings). I tend to be more suspicious of them then, yourself, for a variety of reasons. The old saying 'money changes people' seems to ring true, for me.
Against the jihad against freedom, one way, a bloodless one, to degrade the allure of the jihadist, would be to work on what makes the Muslim wake up in the morning. The afterlife is the core to their religion, even more so then Christianity, or any other faith that I know of. This is why I occasionally present, what must be groan-inducing, posts for you, concerning conceptual, afterlives. It could be pure platonic mathematics, or more dynamically, VR, uploads, cosmological data recovery, whatever? Success, such as we can judge it would have benefits, for ourselves, psychologically, but to the point, would act as incentive to reduce Jihad terrorism. It wouldn't work on everyone, especially, Islamists, driven only by hunger for land and power, and yes, identity. But it would serve to reduce, by a large fraction, those principally, driven, by an afterlife of, literally, wine, women, and song; as promised by Quaran, Soonah, and Buhkari. In my nation-state, the US, a majority of the people are willing to hand over their freedoms for the price of a free phone, a food card, continued unemployment benefits. It may be time for the peoples of the EU to change their world view, for their own physical safety, as the US, through its progessivist, leadership, withdraws from the world. In the 1920's this policy was called Isolationism, and was promulgated by the Right, the conservatives, nativists, KKK. Today, its from progressives, liberals, Marxists, true Pacifists, and those who view the US as an evil enterprise, and here, I speak of some domestic US nationals. Jihadi terrorism is a real threat, no doubt on this. But the point is that there are growing evidences that we don't fight it, "we" seem to exploit it for lucrative special interest (oil control, people control, military-industrial business, etc.). As I said, on 9/11 I changed my mind when Obama signed the incomprehensible NDAA bill. It is a confession of terrorism. Obama seems to say simply "we, the terrorist, have won". Since then I count the evidences for all positions on that question. I am not sure the US defends Israel anymore, or any democracies. They do dangerous fire playing business. Since the NDAA 2012, I can't help myself to feel that the war on terror has the same aspect as the war on drugs, which I know to be already *only*criminal fear selling, with the same "contrary" effect in the result: more drugs, more violence, more terror, less security, less freedom. Bruno -----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jul 6, 2014 5:52 am Subject: Re: American Intelligence On 05 Jul 2014, at 00:38, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > Well, my question is, are you automatically, dismissing jihadi > terrorism as a chimera, a false threat, a non-issue? Jihadi terrorism is a real threat, no doubt on this. But the point is that there are growing evidences that we don't fight it, "we" seem to exploit it for lucrative special interest (oil control, people control, military-industrial business, etc.). As I said, on 9/11 I changed my mind when Obama signed the incomprehensible NDAA bill. It is a confession of terrorism. Obama seems to say simply "we, the terrorist, have won". Since then I count the evidences for all positions on that question. I am not sure the US defends Israel anymore, or any democracies. They do dangerous fire playing business. Since the NDAA 2012, I can't help myself to feel that the war on terror has the same aspect as the war on drugs, which I know to be already *only*criminal fear selling, with the same "contrary" effect in the result: more drugs, more violence, more terror, less security, less freedom. Bruno > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
