Brent, You left me hanging a week or so ago, and never got back to me about something I'm interested in finding out more about.
On 2 July 2014 23:14, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 July 2014 17:06, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 7/1/2014 9:42 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 2 July 2014 15:46, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> OK, so how does that work? Like I said, I don't understand it. >>> Intuitively, saying that A causes B and B causes A doesn't appear to make >>> sense, >>> >>> It's not a causal relationship, it's an explanatory "->". >>> >> >> Sorry I should have said "explains" although I thought it was obvious I >> was using causal in an explanatory sense, not a physical one. Anyway, >> please continue the explanation. >> >> You don't understand what is meant by "physics -> biology" or "biology -> >> evolution -> mathematics" or "mathematics -> physics"? >> >> Yes I do. > > And there you stopped. I'm still waiting for you to continue the explanation. To refresh your memory, you said: OK, except I think the chain is: > arithmetic -> information -> matter -> consciousness -> arithmetic To which I objected that I couldn't see how this makes sense globally, even if each local step makes sense. You appear to be claiming that there is no such thing as a fundamental explanatory level. Since this flies in the face of 3+ centuries of scientific progress (based on reductionism, which assumes there *is* a fundamental explanatory level), not to mention what most people would regard as logic (or at least common sense), this looks like a fairly radical revision of our theories of knowledge. So I'd be interested to know more, if you're prepared to continue explaining. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
