Brent, You left me hanging a week or so ago, and never got back to me about something I'm interested in finding out more about.
On 2 July 2014 23:14, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2 July 2014 17:06, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 7/1/2014 9:42 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 2 July 2014 15:46, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> OK, so how does that work? Like I said, I don't understand it. >>> Intuitively, saying that A causes B and B causes A doesn't appear to make >>> sense, >>> >>> It's not a causal relationship, it's an explanatory "->". >>> >> >> Sorry I should have said "explains" although I thought it was obvious I >> was using causal in an explanatory sense, not a physical one. Anyway, >> please continue the explanation. >> >> You don't understand what is meant by "physics -> biology" or "biology -> >> evolution -> mathematics" or "mathematics -> physics"? >> >> Yes I do. > > And there you stopped. I'm still waiting for you to continue the explanation. To refresh your memory, you said: OK, except I think the chain is: > arithmetic -> information -> matter -> consciousness -> arithmetic To which I objected that I couldn't see how this makes sense globally, even if each local step makes sense. You appear to be claiming that there is no such thing as a fundamental explanatory level. Since this flies in the face of 3+ centuries of scientific progress (based on reductionism, which assumes there *is* a fundamental explanatory level), not to mention what most people would regard as logic (or at least common sense), this looks like a fairly radical revision of our theories of knowledge. So I'd be interested to know more, if you're prepared to continue explaining. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
