From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 7:53 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Brent's circular ontology [was: Is Consciousness Computable?] On 13 July 2014 08:27, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: Or… perhaps it could it be like the mythical snake eating its tail. By, invoking retro-causality Brent isn't invoking retro-causality, but circular explanation. As he was at pains to point out to me, the arrows are explanatory, NOT causal. I wasn’t suggesting he was, and apologize if you mistook, pure conjecture – on my part -- for being a misunderstanding of what he said. In truth I am agnostic on reality, realizing clearly that I operate in some relative degree of ignorance. I also however like conjecture… and airships too J (the steam punk esthetic) A question for you… At some point doesn’t the search for a base level of fundamental reality lead you into an endless recursion or an arbitrary assignment of some, non-reducible fundamental quality to some entity, whether this be particle or pure math. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Brent's circular ontology [was: Is Consciousness Computable?]
'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List Sat, 12 Jul 2014 20:30:07 -0700
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