-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alberto G.
No doubt you have evil inside. And your sense of humor....I know some famous political psychopaths that would sign that "joke". >>But you are not alone. That evil is a product of your ideology, the same >>ideology professed by all the planet saviors in this list and abroad. Evil? You are a piece of work. Fulminate us all with your stream of brilliant wit denouncing our planet loving evilness. >>Perhaps you are more syncere. Some of your comrades would say that you are >>less intelligent in controlling your impulses. But really even if you said >>that, you are better person than your comrades, and maybe more capable to >>grasp one day the terrible consequences of this evil planetarian cult. "Evil planetarian cult" --- I assume you refer to people such as me who have figured out we live on a planet that has a single inter-acting biosphere on it, whose health and good functioning is vital for our own continued collective (so communist of me to use that horrid word) well being -- and this is evil... how? Figuring out that recoverable fossil resources are not infinite and that if we want to continue to enjoy technological civilization we need to adapt and evolve how we live... surely you declare this is pure evil, but why? Can you move beyond the chest pounding phase and say something that might convey a little intelligence on why you view us as pure evil, or is this bitter and facile "wit" all you got? Cheers, An Evil One 2014-07-13 10:54 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>: > Le 13 juil. 2014 10:34, "Alberto G. Corona" <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >> 2014-07-13 10:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>: >> > Le 13 juil. 2014 10:21, "Alberto G. Corona" <[email protected]> a > écrit : >> >> >> >> Comrades: >> >> >> >> Textile plants demand also a lot of energy. Do will be allowed to >> >> dress the Mao suit at least? >> >> >> >> Just to know better what our Lords though for us, in order to love >> >> them even more. >> > >> > Don't be worried, fascists will be killed and burned (for energy >> > efficiency maybe) ... so you should not worry about the kind of >> > clothes you'll be allowed to put on. >> > >> Enough said. Behind all your pseudointelectual masturbations, the >> above paragraph shows your real face > > Yeah I'm an evil communist that eat children and who solved our energy > problem by burning humorless fascists like you. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-07-13 5:52 GMT+02:00, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List >> >> <[email protected]>: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From: [email protected] >> >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of meekerdb >> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:27 PM >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> > Subject: Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 7/12/2014 4:37 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From: [email protected] >> >> > [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:43 PM >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> > Subject: Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I don't see people rushing into uranium and thorium power, nor, >> >> > do I see fusion coming along in two decades. For spaceflight, >> >> > yes, for commercial power, we just don't seem to be lucky with >> >> > the physics of the > universe. >> >> > Perhaps new discoveries about stellar formation might finally >> >> > boost >> > things >> >> > along, in 100 years. People are way too afraid of fission, and >> >> > lets face it, its costs a bitch. Wind and sun are the only thing >> >> > going forward, > that >> >> > seems >> >> > with the grasp of the species, if only because theres lots of it >> >> > out >> > there >> >> > to be harvested, and the price is right. What's killing it are 2 >> >> > things. >> >> > One >> >> > is storage tech, for nights, wintertime, summer storms, smog. We >> >> > need >> > cheap >> >> > reliable storage tech, plus we need quick transmission lines to >> >> > pipe > it >> >> > where needed. The Germans developed some kind of closed cycle >> >> > wind, sun, and methane (nat gas) for the inclement days. Sounds >> >> > doable, and likely, affordable. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Grid scale storage is one dimension - and this is needed not >> >> > only for smoothing out intermittency, but also to demand shift >> >> > away from peak >> > load >> >> > periods. The truth is that the grid is stressed to the breaking >> >> > point by peak summer time load conditions and is ill equipped >> >> > (as currently >> > built) >> >> > to >> >> > handle surges etc. so that relatively small events can have >> >> > massive consequences - such as region wide blackouts. >> >> > >> >> > Forward sited - in key distribution nodes at large urban centers >> >> > of >> > demand >> >> > -- grid scale flow batteries (using low cost environmentally >> >> > benign reagents stored in external tanks - they can scale out in >> >> > capacity by adding more tanks. ) would be my choice. In this >> >> > manner off peak supply could be forward stored at large >> >> > distribution nodes to supply a portion of the >> > local >> >> > area networks electricity demand without needing to deliver this > extra >> >> > increment of power through high tension lines already sagging >> >> > from over-heating. >> >> > >> >> > Another nice way of time shifting demand is systems that use off >> >> > peak supply to freeze water balls in tanks of water, doing so in >> >> > the middle of > the >> >> > night. During the hot afternoon peak load period (and peak need >> >> > for air-conditioning the stored "cold" is harvested to help meet >> >> > demand, without incurring any extra load. >> >> > >> >> > In addition to storage better micro-scale and both near real >> >> > time and forward projecting weather forecasting will help manage >> >> > the balance > of >> >> > supply and demand. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > When everyone has plug-in electric cars they will sign up to >> >> > allow their batteries be used as buffer storage. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I really like that idea as well. when one does the numbers, in >> >> > their aggregate, if say 20% of all cars were pure electric (+ a >> >> > mix of say > an >> >> > additional 10% of plug-in hybrids) that is a lot of very well >> > distributed >> >> > (& >> >> > very survivable) battery storage capacity. It would be fun to >> >> > help write the software to run such a wide distributed power >> >> > exchange. or the client software providing management and >> >> > configuration ability to owners to >> > manage >> >> > how their cars interact with the market when plugged in -- >> >> > naturally closely integrated into the car computer. a process >> >> > running on it, aware of >> > current >> >> > battery capacity, market conditions, expected near term future >> >> > power >> > needs. >> >> > A kind of arbitrage smart agent running on plugged in cars and >> >> > mediating their interaction (they are the edge nodes) with the >> >> > larger wide area >> > power >> >> > (&information) network. >> >> > >> >> > There are also some large scale closed loop pumped storage >> >> > solutions > I >> >> > like, >> >> > especially a recent large one in Southern California - the Eagle > Crest >> >> > project (which is now in final stages of approval) - is designed >> >> > to >> > align >> >> > with the CSP, wind and PV electricity production going on there. >> >> > It consists of - as usual - of a high and a low reservoir that >> >> > are linked by a reversible turbine/pump. The high reservoir is >> >> > an abandoned open pit >> > iron >> >> > mine and the water is, I recall, somewhat brackish ground water >> >> > (not suitable for agriculture). The system - when built - would >> >> > pair very >> > well >> >> > with all the intermittent energy sources in the close by regions >> >> > - >> > there is >> >> > quite a bit of wind energy getting harvested down there too. It >> >> > would >> > have >> >> > a >> >> > 1.3 GW capacity. I seem to remember that something around 10% of >> >> > Japan's electric capacity is in the form of that nations >> >> > installed, pumped hydro capacity - smoothing out the daily >> >> > cycles of peaks and the troughs. >> >> > >> >> > Chris >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Brent >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> >> > Google >> > Groups >> >> > "Everything List" group. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >> >> > it, > send >> > an >> >> > email to [email protected]. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to >> >> > [email protected] > . >> >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> >> > Google >> > Groups >> >> > "Everything List" group. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >> >> > it, > send >> > an >> >> > email to [email protected]. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to >> >> > [email protected] > . >> >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Alberto. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> >> send > an >> > email to [email protected]. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> > send > an >> > email to [email protected]. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> >> >> -- >> Alberto. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups > "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an > email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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