On 14 Jul 2014, at 02:07, meekerdb wrote:

On 7/13/2014 11:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Then, look at my preceding post to you. I don't know for Tegmark, but computationalism excels in differentiating and relating the different sort of existence: ontological, epistemological, observational, communicable or not, theological, etc.





Lists like this that subscribe to everythingism Bruno's "comp" and Tegmark's MUH completely erase the boundary between math and physics.

On the contrary, Comp introduces a clear distinction between the physical, core of all universal being, and the geographical, which are the contingencies of the normal universal numbers living above their substitution level.

Physics is done today is just fuzzy about such distinction.

That would be a nice result. How does it differentiate different sorts existence?



ExP(x) (the arithmetical usual sense. It means that "ExP(x)" is true if there is number n such that P(n). It is the chosen ontology, although we could have taken any other first order specification of a universal base)

Modal nuances:

[]ExP(x)
[]Ex[]P(x)
[]<>ExP(x)
[]<>Ex[]<>P(x)

With either [] (<>) being the box (diamond) of the modal logics G, G*, S4Grz, , Z, Z*, X, X*, G1, G1*, S4Grz1, Z1, Z1*, X1, X1*.

Notions of physical existences are given by []<>Ex[]<>P(x) in the S4Grz1, Z1*, and X1* logics. Those logics are quantum logics. They are graded, as the logic of []p & <><>p, or [][]p & <><><>p, and any []^n p & <>^m p gives a quantum logic when n < m.

In french, the basic ontology is given by the arithmetical existence of numbers, and the physical existence is given by the quantization provided by incompleteness on the consistent RE or sigma_1 extensions, as viewed from some machine points of view. Physics is the science of measurement of possibly alternated results (like W and M, in step 3 and 4, and like other computational states in the step seven generalization where the FPI is on UD*, or any sigma_1 complete reality).

All the boxes of G, G*, ... X1*, can be defined either in arithmetic, or in higher level arithmetical term, like the []p & p.

Bruno





Brent

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