Are you a logical positivist, then? You must not like Nicolas Taleb's Black 
Swan argument either. Just like Og, below! I am Og. 

The idea that we can't  know what we will see or do next came from that great 
thinker Og the caveman and he used induction not logic to develop it;  he 
remembered that he didn't know what he would do next in the past and he figured 
that trend, just like everything else, would probably continue into the future. 
Only much later did Turing discover that the same conclusion could be derived 
from logic.

 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 4, 2014 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Comp Bedtime Stories


On Sun, Aug 3, 2014  Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:




>>> In both diaries, those who predicted 'no break of symmetry', 


>> Who in hell predicted no break of symmetry?


> You. 



BULLSHIT. 



>> One will see Moscow and one will not, nobody thinks that is symmetrical. If 
>> things were symmetrical there would only be one person regardless of how 
>> many bodies there were; there needs to be a break in symmetry for the 
>> concepts of "you" and "me" to be meaningful.


> Good. You disagreed with this some time ago. 



BULLSHIT. 


 > just a very simple case of  first person indeterminacy.



Which is just a pompous and needlessly complex way of saying "I don't know".



 > we get that first person indetermlinacy from logic and the working of a 
 > computer



The idea that we can't  know what we will see or do next came from that great 
thinker Og the caveman and he used induction not logic to develop it;  he 
remembered that he didn't know what he would do next in the past and he figured 
that trend, just like everything else, would probably continue into the future. 
Only much later did Turing discover that the same conclusion could be derived 
from logic.



 >  the guy in Moscow see moscow, and not washington, you have to agree that 
 > his  [HIS?!!!]  prediction "w & m" was wrong

                                                                                
                                                     

As usual  Bruno Marchal can't continue without a ambiguous pronoun fix, in this 
case it's "his".



> is that possible when we assume comp? What do you think?



What do I think? I think that I don't give a rat's ass about "comp". 


  John K Clark















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