On 28 Aug 2014, at 13:33, Telmo Menezes wrote:




On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <multiplecit...@gmail.com > wrote: Legitimacy of proof and evidence (e.g. for a set of cool algorithms concerning AI, more computing power, big data etc), is an empty question to ask, outside a specified theory. It's like some alien questioning whether the rules of soccer on earth are "valid in absolute sense".

Are we after freedom from contradictions? Completeness? Utility function, what are the references, where is the ultimate list?

ISTM Gödel's work has more to say about AI and monkey rock throwing theologies than we might be inclined to assume.

Agreed.

Me too. And the lesson is that we are mainly in front of the unknown. Then it is like skying. We can see terrible obstacles (to happiness) there, but if we don't focus to much on them, we can travel in between and make the trip enjoyable. The amoeba's DNA already codes a representation of "help yourself". Neither the amoeba, nor us, can code "and the heaven will help", but we can hope, and even develop some trust.

AI will no more doom us than our children. It is a matter of good education, and trust in our values. Of course we better should apply them too.


Bruno








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