On 24 Sep 2014, at 19:55, John Clark wrote:

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you deny some things are not computable ?

As I've already said, Turing proved 85 years ago that some things are not computable.

> Do you claim that under materialism everything must be and is computable ?

I claim that everything is NOT computable, and I also claim that philosophers have not shown a difference between materialism and computationalism under the most common meaning of those words.



Materialism involves a notion of matter, usually object of physical theories.

Computationalism involves the notion of computation, which, when assuming Church Thesis, is a mathematical notion, indeed even arithmetical. It has nothing to do with any notion of matter whatsoever.

Unfortunately you are stuck at step 3, so we can't help.

Bruno






> if no, then that's all I need to proceed.

Then proceed.

  John K Clark



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