> On 12-Oct-2014, at 10:52 pm, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote > >> > Those verses instructing slaughter are on the context of war, not peace. > > If the Quran has told Muslims to "put terror into the hearts of the > unbelievers" and if the Quran really is the word of God then you will be in a > constant state of war until the last unbeliever has been converted or > murdered.
Incorrect. God and his angels will put terror in the hearts. Muslims are not asked to do that. According to the Quran, it has been the tradition of God that whenever a Messenger is sent with clear proofs and ample warnings, then the people of the time have no choice except to submit or face punishment. Many mighty civilisations were destroyed in different ways. In fact, in one instance only: Prophet Jonah got upset with waiting for his people to accept Islam and left. However, God was displeased with it, as his was the only nation which finally accepted the mission of their Messenger. The Quran repeatedly mentions the date of the Pharoah and the Aad and Samood and others, and the Arabs were being repeatedly warned that Mohammed is also a Messenger from God so he will triumph. We are not messengers and it is not our job to convert anyone. The Quran is quite clear that it is God who blesses with faith whoever He wills, and keeps away from faith whoever He finds unwilling for faith. > >> > Admitting the existence of God > > It's easy to understand why a human being who claims to hear God's voice > would push the idea that believing in something when there is absolutely no > reason to do so is the very highest form of virtue, but I don't understand > why in the world a omniscient being would. God doesn't force faith on anyone. In fact, on the contrary, those who do not want to believe, God withholds guidance from them. > >> > and obeying him with faith and gratitude on a personal level is what >> > should concern each of us. > > Because if you don't, if you put one toe out of line a loving God with > torture you in ways beyond imagining for a infinite number of years. Well, if you do not believe in God or after-life, why do you worry about it? > I think the God of the Quran is the second most unpleasant character in all > of fiction, only the God of the Old Testament is worse. > I think Allah ( The Deity) is the most loving and compassionate. It is of no benefit to Allah to punish anyone and everyone is invited to faith in many ways and the doors for repentance are open till a person is about to die. It's only when the veil is lifted and a person sees the angel of death that the chance to repent and believe is over. We are required to acknowledge the Creator through our observation of the creation in this life. Why? Some event in the past where we humans took on the Trust. Samiya > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
