On 12 November 2014 21:22, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 12 Nov 2014, at 07:58, LizR wrote: > > On 12 November 2014 15:42, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Physical processes obey the laws of physics. The 2nd law isn't a law of >>> physics. >> >> >> The 2nd law is even more fundamental than a law of physics, it's more >> like a law of logic; it's just the result of there being VASTLY more ways >> to be disorganized (high entropy) than organized (low entropy). So however >> a physical law changes a system, when it is done with it the system will >> almost certainly be in a higher entropy state than it was before the >> changes happened. >> > > Correct. The 2nd law is simply the result of statistics - a "law of logic" > as you say. > > Well, just a detail, which matters for a logician; Logic is not enough, > you need the numbers, and addition + mutiplication, and this entails > already the comp multiverse (the UD*). The whole non triviality of reality > comes from the Turing universaility that we get when having both + and * > laws operating together. >
Thanks Bruno :-) Yes, of course some arithmetic is also involved in the operation of statistics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
