On 16 Nov 2014, at 03:31, Kim Jones wrote:
I wonder if by now it's worth considering in information-theoretic
terms how the evolution of "academe" tends to result in universes in
which most and possibly all information becomes increasingly self-
referential and redundant ie uncreative. I don't know if the current
"scandal" involving the massive fraud in student assignments to
which most Oz unis have turned a blind eye - and presumably will
continue to self-servingly turn a blind eye - fascinates you, but I
can't help thinking this kind of thing necessarily results somehow.
Has this ever happened before in history? I mean, when before has an
entire (usually non-anglo) student cohort been able to get someone
else to write their assignment, pass their course - even though they
might have difficulty sitting a basic English test - and collect
their degree? Is it the Anthropic Principle? It's definitely
inflation of one sort or another. The reason it's inflation is
because it introduces the incentive to keep pushing the academic
ceiling of "qualifiability" for this or that profession higher to
allow the universities to charge ever higher fees amongst a clearly
openly cheating student population. Maybe Darwin has the answer. But
it also means that a PhD is increasingly a meaningless bauble. It
also means via MWI that because it is possible it has already
happened, therefore we should acknowledge that at times throughout
history there is a "brake" applied to the anthropic gathering of
knowledge by system-cheats.
Question: in evolutionary terms, what is a "system-cheat"? Shouldn't
we be studying this more? There is a clear advantage in being one...
Would you count the fact that some spider get disguised into ants to
avoid some bird predator as a system-cheat, or a natural lies. It
communicates the lies of the spider: "no, I am not that delicious
spider dinner that you love so much, I am that disgusting
unswallowable ants you would not eat even if getting paid". It works,
the bird avoid them.
Yes, the parts of the lies the creation is not known. Are we, as
Löbian person, descendant of PA + consistent(PA), pr PA + non-
consistent(PA)?
Sometimes I tend to feel like those who believe in actual infinities
might be descendent of PA + non-consistent PA.
Eric Vandenbussche solved the problem of showing that[ PA + non-
consistent(PA)] proves not just not more theorems than PA, (as is well
known by logicians) but even more interesting problems, basically like
PA + con(PA).
Incompleteness entails, for the machines (and many non-machine
reasonable extensions) a big gap between proof and truth, but this
propagates at deeper (looking more concrete from inside) level, and
being on the side of truth (that is of searching the truth) might be
an handicap in real life.
(Like in the physicists' "joke": a physicist looks anxious and sad,
and his colleague ask him why. He answered that his best student was
trying to understand quantum mechanics. The colleagues replied
something like "I understand you, he is on a very slope if not
finished. It is a joke which happened many times.
In arithmetic There are many intermediate gods in between the machine
and truth, and some are devils (falsities) which can nevertheless
imitates God perfectly ... relatively to us. They make the measure
problem more complex, especially near (relative) death.
As a platonist-friendly, I still believe in the benefits of lies
reduction, like I believe in the harm reduction philosophy in the
health and risk domain.
Bruno
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