On 24 Nov 2014, at 09:14, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I laugh at the anthropological optimists that are confident that
humans will be like gods for the same reason that I laugh loudly at
cibernetical optimists.
most of the effort of inteligent people is devoted to lie themselves
and other in order to gain power and "enslave" people, at least, to
seduce other in his sophisticated lies. The more inteligence, the
more chance for creation and destruction. On the average,
intelligence alone contribute zero to the advancement of society and
thus contributes nothing to the advancement of anything. It is often
the case that dumb people are wiser than intelligent people from
Harvard of Yale staturated by ideology (self-profitable ideology, I
could say).
To have intelligent machines either autonomous or not don´t change
that they could be used for good or for evil contributing nothing,
not even to the progress of machines.
OK. I capture this often by saying that the difference between a small
genius and a big genius is this: the small genius utters small
bullshits, the great genius utters big bullshits ...
Neotony provides hope that intelligence will still grow. All kids are
intelligent, but that does not last long.
Bruno
2014-11-24 7:45 GMT+01:00 John Clark <[email protected]>:
> A.I. is no closer than it was 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.
Of one thing I am certain, someday computers will become more
intelligent than any human who ever lived using any measure of
intelligence you care to name. And I am even more certain that we
are 20 years closer to that day than we were 20 years ago.
> But what is new and big is Big Data. But Big Data does not involve
theories of A.I. nor efforts. it's about taking very large sets of
paired data and converging by some basic rule to a single thing.
This is how translation services work.
Well... Big Data computers are artificial and good translation
requires intelligence, so why in the world isn't that AI.
> Big Data does not involve theories of A.I
I think it very unlikely that the secret to intelligence is some
grand equation you could put on a teashirt, it's probably 1001
little hacks and kludges that all add up to something big.
> It's very large sets of translations of sentences, and sentence
components, simply rehashed for best fit
Simply? Is convoluted better than simple? Are you saying that if we
can explain how it works then it can't be intelligent?
> It actually works fairly adequately for most translation needs.
Which would be great, except this: The Big Data system is not
independent at any point. Every day there needs to be a huge scrape
of the translations performed by human translators.
And human beings move from being mediocre translators to being very
good translators by observing how great translators do it.
> Human translation professions are in a state of freefall. There
used to be a career structure with rising income and security and
status. Now there isn't.
Translation certainly won't be the last profession where machines
become better at there job than any human; and I predict that the
next time it happens somebody will try to find a excuse for it just
like you did and say "Yes a machine is a better poet or surgeon or
joke writer or physicists than I am but it doesn't really count
because (insert lame excuse here)".
John K Clark
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