On Mon, Nov 24, 2014  LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think we need to worry about intelligent machines. A smartphone
> is fairly intelligent, for example, at doing what it does. Conscious
> machines, which (according to Bruno, at least) are possible, are another
> matter.
>

>From a practical operational standpoint it doesn't matter if a machine (or
one of my fellow human beings) is conscious or not, all that matters is if
it can outsmart me or not.  And by the way, if you think that "smartphone"
is more than just a name for a certain type of phone and is really smart
then why don't you think it's conscious too? It's almost as if you believe
that consciousness is harder to achieve than intelligence.

> The main difference being that conscious beings have their own objectives.
>

But even if a intelligent being is not conscious (something I am quite sure
is not possible)  it would have tendencies to act in one way rather than
another determined by the thoughts (call them information streams if you
like euphemisms) flowing through its brain; and the more intelligent the
being is the harder it would be for you to understand them. And those
thoughts may very often have absolutely positively nothing to do with your
best interests.

  John K Clark
















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