On 25 November 2014 at 16:24, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:36 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > We've made intelligent machines,
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>> > but I don't know of any conscious ones
>>
>
> If intelligent behavior is not a test for consciousness then how do you
> know that such machines are not conscious? For that matter how do you know
> that a rock is not conscious but your fellow human beings are conscious
> when they're not sleeping or under anesthesia or dead?
>
> Well that's a bit of a non sequitur. You could equally well say if
smelling of raspberries isn't a test for consciousness, how do we know that
light bulbs aren't unicorns?

As far as I'm aware none of us knows anything for sure. On the balance of
probabilities, however, I would say that rocks most likely aren't
conscious, and that people probably are (when not asleep etc).

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