On 25 November 2014 at 13:41, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't think we need to worry about intelligent machines. A smartphone >> is fairly intelligent, for example, at doing what it does. Conscious >> machines, which (according to Bruno, at least) are possible, are another >> matter. >> > > From a practical operational standpoint it doesn't matter if a machine (or > one of my fellow human beings) is conscious or not, all that matters is if > it can outsmart me or not. And by the way, if you think that "smartphone" > is more than just a name for a certain type of phone and is really smart > then why don't you think it's conscious too? It's almost as if you believe > that consciousness is harder to achieve than intelligence. > We've made intelligent machines, but I don't know of any conscious ones (except those nature has produced, I mean) > > > The main difference being that conscious beings have their own >> objectives. >> > > But even if a intelligent being is not conscious (something I am quite > sure is not possible) it would have tendencies to act in one way rather > than another determined by the thoughts (call them information streams if > you like euphemisms) flowing through its brain; and the more intelligent > the being is the harder it would be for you to understand them. And those > thoughts may very often have absolutely positively nothing to do with your > best interests. > Looks like you are using an unusual definition of consciousness, so I will pass on this discussion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
