> On 29 Nov 2014, at 6:27 pm, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > If nature came up with feeling first and high level intelligence only much > much later, I don't see why the opposite would be true for our computers.
So this is the the meat in your sandwich. It is so revealing. It requires a "self" or a "person" or a "subject" or an "ego" or a "me" or an "I" or a consciousness to allow for qualia to come through. Without this entity - whatever it is - there is no experience of anything possible. Qualia create experience. Experience is 1st person only. You cannot experience my experience and I cannot experience yours. How the hell are we ever going to get use out of AIs whose experience we cannot plug into and monitor, Johnno? The self is entirely PRIVATE. It cannot be created because all selves already exist by our definition of Everything and cannot not exist under QTI. Whoops, that's quantum Theory of Immortality - no cul-de sacs. Yet we may be the same person ultimately when what a "self" is fully understood. I don't think it ever will be fully understood because experience just is and is probably purposeless. Experience is consciousness regarding itself. It's divine fun, that's what it is. There's a bit of purple prose for you. K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
