democratic socialism: The ideological form that oligarchy adopt in the era of mass media propaganda and liquid goods, where confiscation can not be done completely done by brute force
2014-12-15 11:52 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>: > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:40 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 15 December 2014 at 13:57, spudboy100 via Everything List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >>> But the market is sorting it out. >> >> >> Excuse me while I ROFL >> > > Similar hilarity may ensue from the idea that governments can tackle > complex problems in the absence of war. It's even worse than this: there is > no empirical reason to assume that governments can even focus on solving > the right problems. Consider the war on drugs, the TSA, the food pyramid, > the total surveillance apparatus and the incredible civilisational step > back of reintroducing torture in the western world as a condoned way for > states to operate. > > Modern governments have shown to be very competent when it comes to waging > war. They seem to be more or less designed for that. Even the education > system is modelled after the Prussian soldier factory. Even the progresses > that Brent mention were part of arms races. Competition always has > something to do with progress, and war is how you introduce competition in > government. To have competition and peace, I'm not sure that anyone ever > came up with something better than the free market. > > I don't understand the line of reasoning where people claim that "in the > free market people act only out of self-interest, so we need organisations > that act in the public interest". That sounds great, but why should one > believe that positions of power will not end up attracting self-serving > sociopaths? Considerable empirical evidence seems to point to that being > the case. > > To attack climate change with regulation one would need a world > government. What's the point of cutting CO2 emissions in the USA or Europe > if you can't force China to do the same? On one hand, expecting that level > of global cooperation seems naive. On the other hand, if it were possible, > I wonder if life would be worth it under such a regime. > > > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
