On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 1:57 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Singularity" isn't quite the right word,
>

Some people prefer the word "horizon", a point beyond which we can't make
useful predictions because things are changing too fast and too radically;
but I prefer singularity because a horizon is a line not a point.

> because whatever happens will be limited by the laws of physics. Maybe
> nanotech actually is impossible.
>

Nanotechnology involves no new laws of physics or even unusual physics, it
doesn't need General Relativity, colossal gravitational fields,
astronomical densities and huge masses or energies; the temperatures and
pressures and energy we encounter everyday are sufficient for
Nanotechnology to work. But we can go further, we know for a fact that
Nanotechnology is possible because we have a existence example, life.
Admittedly life is a crude version of Nanotechnology but it's about as good
as you could hope for considering that it was invented by random mutation
and natural selection. I have a hunch intelligence can do better, one hell
of a lot better. I should add that the fact that the area human beings are
able to successfully engineer is cut in half every 18 months gives me a
hint that we're on the right path to Nanotechnology.


> > The assumption that we can increase everything without limit isn't
> likely to be correct.
>

You don't need that for a singularity, just something increasing beyond any
hope of understanding.

> A sustainably run planet? A Dyson sphere? Neither appears remotely in
> reach yet
>

I think it will probably happen much sooner but even if I'm wrong and the
singularity won't happen for a 1000 years 999 years from now it will still
seem to be a long way off to nearly everybody, but more will happen in that
last year than the previous 999 combined. About the only thing certain is
that whenever it happens and whatever transpires afterwards it will be a
big surprise, otherwise it wouldn't be a singularity.

 John K Clark

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