Sorry. The message was for the thread about democracy. Anyway, Why criogenization if information is never lost? only that it is scrambled with time. A dead body can be perfectly preserved as a dead body to be eternally a dead body. or at least his information.
2014-12-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>: > > > 2014-12-19 16:52 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>: >> >> The modern man can accept any oppression, with the condition that must be >> impersonal the hand that imposes it. Nicolás Gómez Dávila >> >> 2014-12-19 15:47 GMT+01:00 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>: >>> >>> >>> On 18 Dec 2014, at 18:46, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> Although I am in good health I have just signed up with Alcor to have my >>> head cryogenically frozen at 320 degrees below zero (77 degrees Kelvin) >>> after my death. I am not convinced it will work but I am convinced that if >>> it doesn't work it won't cause me to be any deader. I'm curious if anyone >>> else on this list has done the same. >>> >>> >>> Well, you just say "yes" to a doctor who is plausibly not even born. You >>> might not be deader, but you might wake up as a brain in a vat, perhaps >>> with a loss of some functions, and perhaps with an unbearable headache. I >>> am not sure I am interested, but it is rather courageous. I think that it >>> is vein somehow, tough, given the computationalist immortality which >>> follows from the fact that you could survive. >>> >>> I think that computationalism get closer to Hinduism than occidental >>> religion, where the goal is more to avoid reincarnation, and cut the cycle >>> of terrestrial birth and death, than to perpetuate the ego; >>> >>> Hmm... You might perhaps one day make a salvia experience, you might >>> live an experience which might change your mind on this. But I am not sure >>> if I can recommend this. My experience as a sitter, but also from reports, >>> confirms my feeling that people with strong religious belief (like >>> atheists, although they are usually not aware of this) makes very often >>> quite bad trip. It seems the time for them to realize that they did have >>> religious beliefs, without knowing, and they begin to doubt on something >>> they thought they would never doubt, and it can generate new fears. I have >>> a moral dilemma. I don't want to recommend salvia, but I would feel guilty >>> by not pushing someone I care about to do that salvia experience before >>> saying yes to a doctor. >>> The salvia experience has this key feature: you can't easily dismissed >>> the experience as an hallucination, because if it is an hallucination, then >>> the brain is able to do something which is even more impossible to believe >>> in. There is a sort of Gödelian-Löbian trick, but despite 4006 experiences >>> up to now, I can't put my finger on it, nor can I explain the possibility >>> of remembering parts of that experience in the computationalist frame. >>> >>> Well, I wish you first a long life, and good luck for the next one, with >>> our without artificial means. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alberto. >> > > > -- > Alberto. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
