On Sunday, December 21, 2014 2:20:01 AM UTC, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:07 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> > Part of how you sum up your core insight: that consciousness has no 
>> detectable objective reality
>>
>
> No, I'm saying that consciousness DOES have a detectable objective reality 
> if and only if it's a brute fact that consciousness is the way data feels 
> like when it is processed intelligently. And I'm saying that human beings 
> can detect intelligent behavior and so can the process that produced them, 
> Evolution. 
>  
>
>> > evolution cannot detect consciousness.
>>
>
> If I accept that Darwin was correct and if I also accept that John K Clark 
> is conscious then I am forced by logic to conclude that consciousness is 
> indeed the way data feels like when it is processed intelligently. 
>
> As a corollary I  MUST also conclude that to whatever degree the Turing 
> Test is successful at detecting intelligence then it must be equally 
> successful at detecting consciousness.   
>
>   John K Clark
>

 With the other parts all cut away, it isn't obvious what you have 
there amounts to a case. Do you have such thing in US English common law 
as the ruling common enough here of "No case to answer" - grounds for 
dismissal. 

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