On 23 Dec 2014, at 01:37, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 09:39:57PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:
consciousness is favored. Personally, I think "integrated" is a
vague concept and amounts to "and then a miracle happens" without
some further elucidation.
Brent
See arXiv:1405.0126 for a quite explicit quantification of what
"integrated" means.
I haven't yet had a chance to fully digest the paper, or take a
position on it, but it seems the charge of it being a vague concept is
not valid.
Interesting. The conclusion are close to what we can expect from
diagonalization, without diagonalization.
They asks for []p & p, and got only the []p, and grasp well the
insuperable problem of getting the "t" (without going at a meta-level
where we can take it temporarily for granted, as we manage the
theology of a machine much simpler than us).
May be I assume here that []p & p integrates the []p, from the person
perspective. The "[]p" can only be felt as some multiple disconnected
assembling, like a body.
You are right, using "vague" is not valid here.
Bruno
Cheers
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