On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:24 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/9/2015 3:11 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* meekerdb <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, January 9, 2015 2:45 PM > *Subject:* Re: Democracy > > On 1/9/2015 1:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* meekerdb <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, January 9, 2015 12:25 PM > *Subject:* Re: Democracy > > On 1/9/2015 4:55 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > Money becomes coercive under statism, because it becomes illegal to use > alternative currencies, operate outside of the banking and taxation system > and so on. > > > >>Banks used to issue their own script and in principle anyone could do > it. The trouble with anarcho-capitalism is that there's nothing to prevent > a group from organizing, forming a "government", raising an army a > conquering people around them. In fact that's exactly the arc of history. > If you want anarchy you can go to Syria or Somalia right now. > > What you describe is not the political philosophy of anarchy; what you > describe is life under warlords, and the susceptibility of anarchy to such > organized groups of thugs. > > Functioning anarchy would require a level of individual ethics that does > not yet exist (or at least is not widespread). Anarchy is vulnerable to > being destroyed by thuggery and mayhem; no doubt about that; however it > should not be confused with that heartless outcome. > > > >>Every form of government will work well with perfect people. > > That is side-stepping the point that some forms of social organization > require a much higher degree of civic involvement than others do. > > > Exactly, and anarchy that functions as well as constitutionally limited > democracy would require angels. > This overestimates the importance of things written in a piece of paper and underestimates the importance of social norms, culture and education. The reason why I don't go and loot my neighbours is not because a piece of paper says I can't, or even because I am afraid of the police. Remove this too things and I still wouldn't do it. I suspect everyone participating in this discussion is the same. Why? On the other hand, the Weimar constitution was powerless to stop the nazis, and the American constitution appears powerless to stop the NSA. Telmo. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
