On 12 Jan 2015, at 08:27, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 10:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From
quantum theory to dialectics?
On 1/11/2015 8:05 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 1/11/2015 6:39 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
Once Bruno explained to me how he intends the term god when he uses
it I understood his intent. Clearly he is not connoting some
biblical deity when he uses the term. While it may be a continuous
source of confusion for him as others who are unfamiliar with his
meaning of god, encounter his usage of it; it is his prerogative to
decide to use that term.
That's how O'Brien explains it to Winston Smith.
Come on now... how does an allusion to George Orwell’s 1984 enter
into this?
O'Brien knew that who controls language controls thought. So peace
is war. Atheism is Christianity. And "God" is whatever you want it
to mean.
Okay at least I know you are not comparing Bruno or myself to
O’Brien… whew J
I don’t think Bruno (or me for sure) is trying to say that God is
whatever “you” says it means. He uses it in a fairly precise and
defined manner, that has a historic tail to it as well, which is
distinct and different from “whatever you want it to mean”.
Thanks Chris. Jason also did send a nice post summing all the uses of
the term God, but atheists seem to disagree on this. Atheists seems to
insist that God means only what the christians mean by it, and nothing
else. I guess they need that notion, for atheism making sense. That
would explain why they slip from "no fairy tales" to "no theology at
all". Of course, this forces a status quo in theology, preventing any
progress in the field.
Bruno
-Chris
Brent
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