On 12 Jan 2015, at 07:52, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/11/2015 8:05 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 1/11/2015 6:39 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
Once Bruno explained to me how he intends the term god when he uses
it I understood his intent. Clearly he is not connoting some
biblical deity when he uses the term. While it may be a continuous
source of confusion for him as others who are unfamiliar with his
meaning of god, encounter his usage of it; it is his prerogative to
decide to use that term.
That's how O'Brien explains it to Winston Smith.
Come on now... how does an allusion to George Orwell’s 1984 enter
into this?
O'Brien knew that who controls language controls thought. So peace
is war. Atheism is Christianity. And "God" is whatever you want it
to mean.
Atheism is a variant of christiniaty, because for non atheist non
christian, "God", like any term in a theory, is defined by axioms or
semi-axioms indeed.
Only atheists insist that God means what the christians means by it,
and both atheists and christians take for granted the second God of
Aristotle: primary matter.
I know only atheists, and fundamentalist religious people, to insist
all the time that God has a precise meaning, and that meaning is
always a variant of Aristotle first God.
If atheists were sincere in their disbelief in the God of the
christians, they would welcome new notions, and they would welcome the
idea of coming back with reason in the field.
Non fundamentalist christians (the majority in Europa) are open to
Plato and Neoplatonism, and are aware of the work in theology done by
them, and which has influence their religion despite the fairy tales.
Most european theologian do not believe in the fairy tales, although
some believe they might help the non intellectually inclined people
who lack spiritual maturity. May be they are right, or not. I don't
know, but the fairy tales are not my cup of tea.
Bruno
Bruno
Brent
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