On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:11 PM, 'Roger' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> > > Roger, >> >> I have a question for you. >> >> Do you believe the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of Pi has a certain >> definite value, which is either 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9? >> >> If so, would you still believe this if you knew that this number is too >> difficult to ever compute by anyone in this universe? >> >> Does this not point to a discontinuity between mathematical truth and >> conceivably of that truth by us limited creatures with limited minds in a >> limited universe? Perhaps it does take faith to believe that digit takes a >> certain value between 0 and 9, but it's easier for me to accept that on >> faith than the converse (that it is not any one of those digits). >> >> Jason >> >> > Jason, > > What I believe is that there is no proposition outside a mind/head > that relates a circle's circumference and its diameter to get a number > called pi. > But that wasn't my question. Do you think that that the digit has a certain definite value (despite not being known by any human) or perhaps any being in this physical universe? Let's work by steps, do you think the 10^1th digit has a definite value? Do you think the 10^6th digit has a certain definite value? Do you think the 10^Nth digit has a definite value (for any given N)) ? > What I think does exist is: > > o A circle could exist either outside the mind or inside the mind/head as > the mental construct labeled "a circle". > > o It takes a mind to come up with a proposition that says that if you > divide the circumference of a circle by its diameter, you get pi, and that > the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal point of this pi is one of the numbers from > 0-9. > Do you believe that *one and only one* of the following statements is true? the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 0 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 1 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 2 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 3 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 4 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 5 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 6 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 7 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 8 the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 9 Either you answer yes, or no to that question. If you answer yes, I don't see how you can escape mathematical realism. Jason > So, this proposition and its value as true or false only exists inside a > mind/head even if it describes a circle that's outside the mind. > > Roger > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
