On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < [email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01-Feb-2015, at 1:57 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kierkegaard complained about this with his own Religion, the >>>> Christians. Maybe all religions suffer from this as there is vanity in >>>> assuming to know what god wants from us. >>>> >>>> >>>> I believe that Quran is from God, hence I try to follow it. You ask me >>>> questions and I try to answer them. Sometimes, yes, I also volunteer to >>>> share some verse which I find relevant to my perspective of something being >>>> discussed. Is that vanity or just sharing of knowledge? >>>> >>> >>> Good question. >>> >>> If somebody keeps insisting on literal interpretation, then it's hard to >>> see how they could "volunteer" things in innocent, benevolent fashion to >>> enrich the varied perspectives of respected others. They have a literal >>> interpretation, so they have an obvious mission, which involves forcing the >>> others to see what they see. The "others" would not be respected, hence the >>> relation of literal interpretation to insult. >>> >> >> 1) I do not disrespect you or anyone else, neither in mind nor vocally. >> Please know that. >> > > Likewise. > > >> >> 2) So if Bruno is insisting on comp, is he insulting you and others on >> this list? I don't think so. >> > > He doesn't insist on comp in the sense that he advocates its literal truth > in a strong sense. > > >> If John Mikes insists on 'I dunno', is he insulting those who have faith? >> I don't think so. >> > > If Bruno and John indeed insist in strong literal sense, they would run > into such problem. But Bruno appears aware of this problem and steers clear > of it. > > >> I mention them not to single them out, but to point out that it is okay >> to have some convictions or not, yet it is important that one speaks one's >> own truth instead of just stating things that would be pleasing to others. >> 3) If you find my faith insulting to your thoughts, then why do you ask >> questions from me? >> > > Where do I insult your faith? > I should have phrased it as 'my expression of faith' and not 'my faith'. I do not say that you insult it, I wonder why my admittance of being convinced makes you feel insulted? I may be right or I may be wrong, but I do believe what I believe. Perhaps I should begin my replies with 'According to the Quran, based upon my understanding of it, I think...' but isn't that implicit as you know that already. > If anything, you'll find that in previous weeks on this list, I have > defended the moderate practice of Islam, and advocated rigor in > non-confessional or negative theology, urging people not to generalize on > other people's faith. > That's nice. I've been missing out on many threads and several messages within threads. Its amazing the volume of emails generated on this group. Samiya > > You're blaming the messenger in that I pointed out that strong literalism > is hard to reconcile with respect of others, their faith, and the freedom > that you invoke in next quote: > > >> You could simply ignore what I write. There is no compulsion on you or >> anyone to read what I write. >> > > It's hard to reconcile because how can we claim such freedom towards > others, when at the same time asserting "the truth is in my literal > interpretation"; i.e. limiting that same faculty in others? If this comes > to close to your personal theology, I respectfully apologize, and maintain > that it was/is your endeavor and choice to harmonize critical, scientific > thought, with the meaning of theological writing, that brought up this > question in the first place. > > It was therefore natural that the question of literal interpretation was > reached and you have my position along with the question: perhaps we > shouldn't take ourselves or some clown called PGC posting informally on > these topics so seriously? After all, these letters are not from Quran, so > how would PGC even have the slightest idea of what he is posting about? ;-) > PGC > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
