Agreed so far. I tend towards libertarian small scale solutions and never trusted 43, nor his competence, nor, the people he chiefly, represented. BHO is much much worse, in both incompetence and lies. The man's policies fail, one by one, and thus, will cause troubles not only to his home country, but far off kiwiland as well. Al Qaeda did shoot its bolt 14 years ago, but remember al qaeda means the base, named after the ancient relational database called DB3. The various groups, personnel, funding, areas of control, etc., were all on Bin Ladens littile database. So, in the meantime, all these orgs competed in a darwinian fashion for leadership and have evolved onward into ansar, the other into isis. The fear is that another catastrophe will be created by BHO's negligence, and thus we all will fall into a big war cycle. This event, should it happen will change the politics, but not after lots of carnage. Hating one's home country, as many seem to, will not persuade the perception of the islamists, but likely encourage their agression. That is my view.
Mitch Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: LizR <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Feb 2, 2015 06:31 PM Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of view <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_c5b3e81d-add3-46e9-be0d-6211d6d89a23"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="aolmail_gmail_extra"> <div class="aolmail_gmail_quote"> On 3 February 2015 at 12:18, spudboy100 via Everything List <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>></span> wrote: <blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <font color="black" face="arial"> <div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color:transparent">Liz, this is only for the brainwashed, the ideological. You need to ask him why he makes justification for ISIS? For Iran, for Al Qaeda. My guess is that its ideological. If you like Eric Blair/Orwell, "Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. In a time of universal deceit telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."</font> </font> </blockquote> I was talking about the way that terrorism has been used as an excuse to reduce the population of the western world to a form of slavery - with increased surveillance and power in the hands of the (increasingly secret, increasingly well armed) police - and how this is being used to maintain a perpetual state of fear - a "cold war" against a shadowy and perhaps largely nonexistent foe (like al Qaeda, which reports suggest basically shot its bolt with 911 and was nothing like the monster it was subsequently painted as). And how most people are ignorant of what is being done to them in the name of "freedom". It's summed up to a large extent by this infographic. Note the line on terrorism, 33 deaths which have been "leveraged" to create virtual police states in various western democracies. (Apart from "1984", by the way, this also reminds me of James Blish's "Cities in flight" timeline of furture history, in which by 2018 the USA and USSR had merged into a world totalitarian state because they had found there were no significant ideological differences - obviously Blish didn't foresee the fall of "communism" in the 80s, but he seems to have also had a hotline to the 21st century in some respects). <img width="414" height="562" src="http://www.sciencedump.com/sites/www.sciencedump.com/files/beafraid.jpg";> </div> </div> </div> <p></p> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>. To post to this group, send email to <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>. Visit this group at <a target="_blank" href="http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list";>http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list</a>. For more options, visit <a target="_blank" href="https://groups.google.com/d/optout";>https://groups.google.com/d/optout</a>. </div> </div> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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