On 3 February 2015 at 13:25, spudboy100 via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> Agreed so far. I tend towards libertarian small scale solutions and never > trusted 43, nor his competence, nor, the people he chiefly, represented. > BHO is much much worse, in both incompetence and lies. The man's policies > fail, one by one, and thus, will cause troubles not only to his home > country, but far off kiwiland as well. Al Qaeda did shoot its bolt 14 years > ago, but remember al qaeda means the base, named after the ancient > relational database called DB3. The various groups, personnel, funding, > areas of control, etc., were all on Bin Ladens littile database. So, in the > meantime, all these orgs competed in a darwinian fashion for leadership and > have evolved onward into ansar, the other into isis. The fear is that > another catastrophe will be created by BHO's negligence, and thus we all > will fall into a big war cycle. This event, should it happen will change > the politics, but not after lots of carnage. Hating one's home country, as > many seem to, will not persuade the perception of the islamists, but likely > encourage their agression. That is my view. > > Also agreed so far. I don't know how 43 and 44 compare (convenient shorthand) in terms of incompetence and lies, but they seem to have mainly proved that... ...and I agree that there is a threat from ISIS etc - what I don't want is to give up our existing feedoms to combat them. To put it bluntly Id' rather live in a land of (relative) freedoms and take the risk that I will be blown up by a terrorist than live in a repressive police state in which every "person of interest" is under surveillance. The price of freedom is constant vigilance, but there is also a tradeoff between freedom and security. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

