On 13 Feb 2015, at 11:44, LizR wrote:
On 13 February 2015 at 16:40, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2/12/2015 8:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Yes it does assume an unexplainable first intelligence. However,
the unexplainable is simply because of our lack of knowledge of
that. The absence of an intelligent designer is more illogical.
It's just filling the gap with nothing.
Hmm....
What if we fill the gap with elementary arithmetic?
What if we leave the gap with "We don't know" until we have more
knowledge.
That's what Bruno is doing, as far as I can tell. His proposed
explanation is only speculative - but you can't fill the gap at all
unless you're prepared to speculate. Or are you advocating
abandoning the formation of hypotheses?
Thanks Liz.
I would still point on the fact that "my explanation" is less
speculative that all the others. My explanation is just the
speculation that the brain is Turing emulable (and consciousness is
invariant for the choice of emulation).
The speculation that the brain is not Turing emulable is far more
speculative, as it needs some ontological commitment in either an
Aristotelian God, or at least an Aristotelian matter, if not a wave
collapse, + magical (non Turing emulable) relationships between
consciousness and that matter, which nobody has ever provide a single
evidence for, beyond the mere *feeling* that we are unique, and that
we look material, when we see ourselves in a mirror.
Then, *assuming* computationalism, arithmetic fills the gap of the 3p
reality, (making computationalism testable) and fill 99,9% of the gap
of consciousness, with a complete explanation why some percentage must
remains unexplainable for reason of consistency.
OK?
Bruno
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