On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 3:53 AM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Mater doesn't have to be fundamental for your lab to work. > > > I never said one word about matter being fundamental, in fact I think if > anything is fundamental it's consciousness not matter; however I did say > that a non-materialistic theory is not falsifiable and you said I was > confused. So cure my confusion by giving me a EXAMPLE (not a loquacious > definition that is so general it's useless) of a non-materialistic theory > that is falsifiable. > Darwinism and general relativity are two examples amongst many of scientific theories that are falsifiable but do not assume materialism. I believe your initial confusion was on assuming that materialism is implied in most mainstream science. I think you already realised your mistake, but I also suspect we will be back on square one in a few months (if history teaches us anything...). > > > I don't know. I assume you accept wikipedia as a reasonable gauge of the >> credibility of terms > > > Yes, I do indeed. If you run across a technical term or acronym you don't > understand when reading Nature or Science or Physical Review Letters you > can just look it up in Wikipedia and it will tell you all about it, > Me too. > but Wikipedia has never heard of UDA or FPI or any of Bruno's peepee > terminology, and yet Bruno acts as if they were household words that any > educated person should know. > You seem to keep making the same logical mistake: The fact that the presence of a term on Wikipedia gives us some assurance that it is a useful term does not imply that the absence of a term from Wikipedia is a signal that the term is useless. (in many cases, it did not achieve enough mainstream attention for Wikipedia to be able to include it, according to its own rules) The fact that non-materialistic theories of mind are not falsifiable does not imply that materialistic theories of mind are. > > > I am still waiting for your comment on this, by the way: > > > Then you may rejoice, your wait is over. > Ok, I don't need to score points. I just wish we don't have to pointlessly rehash this discussion in the future. Telmo. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
