RE: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down

Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:43:37 -0700 

 

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alberto G. 

 

The left need some nuclear victim. 

 

And the right needs the left to bash, without the left the right would 
auto-cannibalize itself.

Chris

 

 

It is not surprising for me how they live from the myths and propaganda of the 
cold war. No matter that it is no longer necessary to stop the West in his 
advance in nuclear technology to help the socialist countries. They still are 
attached to the myths that the soviet propaganda and their fabian puppets 
created. The block for which the useful idiots worked vanished, but who makes 
the useful idiots to understand that?

 

The same happens with the gender ideology, created by the Soviets to weaken the 
West. In general all the stupidification ideas in education  the socialist 
leaning economy (keynessianism, invented by Marx 50 years,  before keynes) the 
gay agenda,  the violent  black movements, the pacifist and finally the 
ecologists all of them were created  to serve the interest of the soviet agenda 
by people with ties to the "socialist motherland".

 

But the amazing thing is that the main victim of such intended stupidification 
is the left itself, that swallowed their own propaganda. The first marxist were 
educated in traditional families that valorated the effort. Gramsci, Marx, 
Engels were people well versed in philosophy, literature, the sciences of their 
time. Now the mean intellectual leftist is a shouting liberal which only care 
about their feelings and feed his hate trying to extend their market of 
supposed victims of capitalism by an ever expanding list of mechanisms: 
machism, economical exploitation, contamination,  anythingphobia etc with no 
intellectual grounds but his own marketing of hate.

 

2015-03-23 9:58 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>:

 

 

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 3:48 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

I am saying that I don't know if uranium fission can be made safer, and 
cheaper. I also think that part of the cost is waste management. I think that 
natural gas, solar and wind (with Storage) may now be the past of least 
resistance.

 

Fair enough. I don't know either, I just have the impression that a lot of 
people who protest nuclear power (and influence political decisions) also don't 
know.

 

Telmo.

 

 



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From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2015 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely melted down

 

 

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: 

On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: 

We can yap about technology but it's all out of our hands. Nuclear fission has 
taken permanent hit because of its cost$. It's not safety that halted uranium, 
but money. In a darwinian fashion, natural gas has superseded  uranium, from a 
cost-price ratio. Could fission or solar re-take the hill top any time soon? 
Will fusion ever be there? Don't know, and since I have no power to influence, 
don't care. 


That's because fossil fuels don't pay for the environmental damage they do 

 

The problem I have with this argument is that it assumes that either: 

 

a) there is some straightforward way of converting money into environmental 
damage mitigation, or 

b) that the disincentive introduced by making fossil fuels less lucrative would 
lead to their replacement with cleaner technologies. 

  

and because the exaggerated fear of radiation drives up the cost of nuclear 
power.

 

>From my limited knowledge nuclear power seems to be the best shot at b). I 
>tend to agree with JCK that Fukushima can be taken as a reason to trust 
>nuclear power more: a perfect storm of natural disasters struck a nuclear 
>power plan based on old technology and still nobody died. But Chris claim that 
>the tragic effects may only be detectable in the long term also seems 
>reasonable. 

 

Telmo. 

  


Brent

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