This book has -abundance- of references, that you may contrast, about who keynes was and what was his role of this self described as bolshevik, married with a militant soviet dancer, who traveled freely trough the USSR in the middle of the worst red terror and still praising the USSR, whose friends were, most of them, soviet spies as later was discovered.
http://www.keynesatharvard.org/book/KeynesatHarvard-ch10.html I said above that the useful idiots, but useful idiots are not only leftist, there were many many right wing idiots that permitted this state of things. I would say that there more idiots in the right than in the left. At least the leftist know what they want. Concerning the rest, I recommend this set of videos, from a former propagandist of the Novistik magazine about their budget for infiltration, disinformation, how to abduce corrupt people (They were unsuccessful with the working class and later targeted the most corrupt medium-high class of ANY ideology. They had people working for them in the right) https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yuri+bezmenov 2015-03-23 17:48 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>: > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The left need some nuclear victim. It is not surprising for me how they >> live from the myths and propaganda of the cold war. No matter that it is no >> longer necessary to stop the West in his advance in nuclear technology to >> help the socialist countries. They still are attached to the myths that the >> soviet propaganda and their fabian puppets created. The block for which the >> useful idiots worked vanished, but who makes the useful idiots to >> understand that? >> >> The same happens with the gender ideology, created by the Soviets to >> weaken the West. In general all the stupidification ideas in education the >> socialist leaning economy (keynessianism, invented by Marx 50 years, >> before keynes) the gay agenda, the violent black movements, the pacifist >> and finally the ecologists all of them were created to serve the interest >> of the soviet agenda by people with ties to the "socialist motherland". >> > > It is true that the URSS secretly funded organisations that were > interested in spreading such ideas in the West. This information has been > declassified by the CIA. What is not so clear to me is that their strategy > was of destroying the west by spreading what they deemed to be cultural > viruses. > > I think a much more likely hypothesis is that they were simply trying to > infiltrate important demographics (mainly college students) by pandering to > fashionable causes. Then they could identify susceptible individuals and > natural leaders and manipulate them into loyalty to the URSS. I think they > would pretend to support any idea as long as this strategy could be > furthered. I don't think this has any relevance to the merit of the ideas > themselves. I don't approve of Keynesianism, for example, but I don't think > this is a valid argument against Keynesianism. > > For me the "gay agenda" is a particularly bizarre idea, given that it does > not seem possible to brainwash a person into homosexuality. Granted, some > gays might not procreate if they have the option of not living a fake life, > but what's the point in that? The west is going to collapse by losing 1% of > its heterosexual couples? > > >> >> But the amazing thing is that the main victim of such intended >> stupidification is the left itself, that swallowed their own propaganda. >> The first marxist were educated in traditional families that valorated the >> effort. Gramsci, Marx, Engels were people well versed in philosophy, >> literature, the sciences of their time. Now the mean intellectual leftist >> is a shouting liberal which only care about their feelings and feed his >> hate trying to extend their market of supposed victims of capitalism by an >> ever expanding list of mechanisms: machism, economical exploitation, >> contamination, anythingphobia etc with no intellectual grounds but his own >> marketing of hate. >> > > Isn't this true of the average person? Is the average right-winger any > better, shouting about scripture, racism and creationism? > > Telmo. > > >> >> 2015-03-23 9:58 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 3:48 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I am saying that I don't know if uranium fission can be made safer, and >>>> cheaper. I also think that part of the cost is waste management. I think >>>> that natural gas, solar and wind (with Storage) may now be the past of >>>> least resistance. >>> >>> >>> Fair enough. I don't know either, I just have the impression that a lot >>> of people who protest nuclear power (and influence political decisions) >>> also don't know. >>> >>> Telmo. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> >>>> To: everything-list <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2015 5:24 pm >>>> Subject: Re: TEPCO admits Fukushima Daiichi Unit 1 core completely >>>> melted down >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 3/21/2015 9:05 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We can yap about technology but it's all out of our hands. Nuclear >>>>> fission has taken permanent hit because of its cost$. It's not safety that >>>>> halted uranium, but money. In a darwinian fashion, natural gas has >>>>> superseded uranium, from a cost-price ratio. Could fission or solar >>>>> re-take the hill top any time soon? Will fusion ever be there? Don't know, >>>>> and since I have no power to influence, don't care. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That's because fossil fuels don't pay for the environmental damage >>>>> they do >>>>> >>>> >>>> The problem I have with this argument is that it assumes that either: >>>> >>>> a) there is some straightforward way of converting money into >>>> environmental damage mitigation, or >>>> b) that the disincentive introduced by making fossil fuels less >>>> lucrative would lead to their replacement with cleaner technologies. >>>> >>>> >>>>> and because the exaggerated fear of radiation drives up the cost of >>>>> nuclear power. >>>>> >>>> >>>> From my limited knowledge nuclear power seems to be the best shot at >>>> b). I tend to agree with JCK that Fukushima can be taken as a reason to >>>> trust nuclear power more: a perfect storm of natural disasters struck a >>>> nuclear power plan based on old technology and still nobody died. But Chris >>>> claim that the tragic effects may only be detectable in the long term also >>>> seems reasonable. >>>> >>>> Telmo. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Brent >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Alberto. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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