I don't disagree, especially when in the US, the billionaires run everything.
Good if they chose wisely, Bad if they don't or decide not to. Like Indiana
Jones and the Jesus Chalice or whatever it was called. "Choose wisely" said the
800 year old Knight. My original point was that Liz was basically saying things
have devolved under capitalism, the environment, wars, and I was refocusing on
what she left out, regarding the glories of socialism. If one is going to
blast, at least blast fairly. This is basically what I call the Wattenberg
method, after the government studies professor who asked, "Compared to what and
compared to when?" Also, there are no protests or disruptions from the rule of
the rich, nowadays. It's not like the serfs have run into the streets and
overturned busses, or lighting trash fires, blocking highways, etc. Therefore,
we must be ok with all this rule by the rich? Your friends at Davos are
hopefully, wiser, than the politicians they own, because right now things seem
to be getting unpleasant internationally now.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Apr 12, 2015 5:38 am
Subject: Re: Life in the Islamic State for women
On 10 Apr 2015, at 13:34, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
The year is 2015. Is half the world enslaved now? If so, the violence in the
world isn't being aimed at capitalists with top hats, suits, monocles, and
cigarette holders. If you wish to speak of what the Belgians did in the Congo,
120 years ago, I will heartily agree. You are also ignoring the damage done to
the environment by the communists in the USSR and the PRC. Socialism killed the
Aral Sea, not capitalism, It was socialism that caused Chernobyl not
Capitalism, and the Soviet radioactive materials fires in Kyrgyzstan.
Counterpoint! It was capitalism that produced Fukushima by building a reactor
too close to the sea. But capitalists are forced to react against an exorcised
public, and communists just mow them down.
-----Original Message-----
From: LizR < lizj...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list < everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2015 8:50 pm
Subject: Re: Life in the Islamic State for women
On 10 April 2015 at 03:33, spudboy100 via Everything List
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Why not say, "Ah! but the Third Reich was only going through it's baby steps,
and thus, made a few mistakes along the way." Communism, as a governmental form
leads to bigtime killings, and the economics aren't very good either.
The same can be said of capitalism, or whatever you want to call the system
that has enslaved half the world and may end up destroying most of it for human
habitation.
The problem is not capitalism (nor really communism, islam, ...). The problem
are people who pervert it ( them) for their own special interests.
In a working sane laical democracy we can be protected against such perversion,
but today, I am not sure there is any working democracy anywhere (with perhaps
some few exceptions).
If people can lie on cannabis for 75 years, and on cancer for 40 years, they
can lie on many things.
It is clear that there is no more any separation between media and politics,
and that lack of separation is the democracy killer n0 1.
(I am well placed to judge this. When I got the french price for my PhD thesis,
a dozen of journalists have interviewed me on the work (not the harassment) and
only one of them has been able to publish the interview).
Democracies have shown that they are not immune against propaganda.
BTW, evidences continue to accumulate that the cannabinoïds cure cancer much
more efficaciously than chemo and radio. In fact in Israel, they have
understood how and why the cannabinoïds work so well: their agonist play key
role in the molecular repairs, and the evacuation of sick cells in the
organism. It explains also why the cannabis cure (known since 5000 years) has a
so large spectrum, and is sometimes the only known cure, like with auto-immune
disease, glaucoma, .... At least things are beginning to change, albeit slowly,
on this.
We know also that prohibition does not work, except for financing terrorism and
international criminality. I don't believe at all in the war on drug and in the
war on terror, as the first step to "win" the second would consist in stopping
the first.
Financial lobbying is also a complete nonsense. It replace the political debate
by authoritative arguments, automatically. It kills democracy almost as much as
the lack of separation of the powers. It is the democracy killer n° 2.
Bruno
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