RE: Life in the Islamic State for women

Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:09:00 -0700 

 

 

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Quentin, sometime its who you are silent about that is an indictment. For 
example, during the Vietnam conflict, there were mass demonstrations against 
the war. The leaders of the antiwar movement were never pacifists, but sided 
with the communists, and especially what the soviets wanted. They never 
protested against the Soviets hold in eastern europe or soviet funding wars in 
the middle east, North Korea, or, especially the communist Khmer Rogue in 
Kapuchea, where a million were massacred, Stalin Style, Mao style. Silent, like 
the lambs, to paraphrase Hannibal Lecter. These anti-war types, because of 
their being not pacifists, but communist, in their ideology, remained silent, 
Similarly, the anti-war peeps of today support the Islamists. For personal 
example (a minor one) when I perused the IEET site, where in one professor of 
anthropology, wrote an article on that website, stating that the Hamas war 
against Israel was a Transhumanist cause. I challenged the fellow on this and 
pondered what Transhumanists can have in common with Hamas who believes in and 
enforces Shariah Law (and all that implies). Let us say the examples I raised 
met with objections there, where John Hughes likes things hard left. I ended up 
contacting a former manager of that site who confirmed my view (his moderate 
liberal-libertarian). 

 

You have a strange distorted understanding of history as it becomes when 
squeezed through the toothpaste tube of your ideological optic. You are living 
proof of the dangers of subjectivism, of how the act of wearing ideological 
blinders distorts reality into the weird paranoid production your mind 
perceives. You take partial facts, half-truths, fantastic interpretation and 
cook up a grand conspiracy in the feverish recesses of your mental reification 
of reality – as it becomes perceived through your distorted optic. Reality only 
seems this way to you because this is what your mind’s eye demands it should be.

I love my country enough to criticize it; do you?

Chris

 

Now you may ask why would leftists who call themselves now, progressives, side 
with the Islamists? An incomplete explanation is the progressives hope the 
Islamists knock the crap out of the West, thus, leaving themselves as the 
beneficiaries of such a civilizational failure. Maybe its a knee-jerk reaction? 
I don't care anymore, I just view who sides with whom. For instance, there has 
never been a proposed boycott out of academia against Saudi, Qatar, Iran, Iraq 
(under Saddam) North Korea, etc. I am not trying to convince you (an impossible 
task) simply trying to point out the logical incongruity of being good with 
Islamist totalitarianism. I am surprised that our civilization has not erupted 
in massive violence, and right now the streets are quiet?



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From: Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Mar 31, 2015 9:35 am
Subject: Re: Life in the Islamic State for women

 

 

2015-03-31 12:11 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>: 

 

 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:

 

 

2015-03-31 10:37 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>:

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 07:04:10AM -0400, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
> Well, its not the new jihadists I blame, but the (yes) leftist academics, 
> politicians, and news thugs, that have long, empowered, and made excuses for 
> these aggressors. My suspicion is that they see the jihadists worldwide as 
> being able to topple their shared "capitalist enemies."  Why else would 
> somebody make excuses, constantly, for jihadists, islamists, and their 
> antidemocratic mindset, anti women, and so forth? The left in all lands serve 
> as the Islamist enablers, and some are billionaires who lean left. Yeah, I 
> know this is divisive, but it's sadly, accurate. Maybe, you left voters could 
> start to vote for nationalist politicians in your countries as a push-back 
> against the jihadist-catering pols, academics, and newsies? You could still 
> be for social justice and spend for it, but coddling the islamists by word 
> and deed would need to be suppressed. They do like modern weaponry, delivered 
> into their hands by allah, to use against the Qufars (all of us). This now 
> includes NBC weapons.

In which country are the lefties apologists for jihadists and 
islamists? 

 

It is fairly common in Europe. 

 

Hi Quentin, 

 

First of all, I don't agree with any of the stuff spudboy wrote, except for 
this detail. The right-wing in Europe is rather terrible and I have no sympathy 
for their xenophobic inclinations. 

  

 

Which countries in Europe ? 

 

>From my personal experience: Portugal, France and Germany. Not so sure about 
>the UK. 

  

Because I know no "lefties apologists for jihadists and 

islamists" here in Belgium... also if I translate corretly "lefties", in french 
it translates to "gauchiste"... and it's an insult... don't know if it is in 
english. 

 

I believe the French version has a more negative connotation, while the English 
one is a mostly neutral nickname. Someone might correct me if I'm wrong. 

  

 

If you equates sympathizer of the palestinian (who often have 
social/progressive politics preferences, I can admit) as apologists for 
jihadists and islamists, it's cleary an abuse and bad faith. 

 

I agree that this is related to the matter, but what I would say is that some 
left-leaning people extrapolate their sympathy for the Palestinians to an 
overall pro-Arab, anti-Israel stance. 

 

I don't see it that way... please also note that "charlie hebdo" is what you 
can call "leftist"... and it is clearly not pro jihad, or pro religion or 
whatever pro-religion/fascist related... most of the palestinian sympathizers 
(from known left or not) are clearly not hamas supporter... there are some 
clearly, but they're not common "left wing" or common in any left parties I 
know of, even radical left... I know of no radical left (if that's them you're 
pointing) in belgium and france who are *for* the djihadist and or islamisation 
of the society... could you provide of such persons/party who clearly states 
and defends such things ? as it is clearly against any socials or economical 
ideas of what is called "the left". 

  

A certain tendency of the European left to dislike the USA also helps. 

  

 

So what do you mean by "fairly common in Europe" ? what "left" are talking 
about ? 

 

I'm not sure this is related to a "type of left", I would say it's more related 
to the tribal personality type, who likes to be on the side of their group on 
all matters, no matter what. There are a lot of left-wing people who do not fit 
this category, of course. I know and am friends with some of them. 

 

It is true, for example, that the crimes of Hamas are completely ignored by the 
European mainstream press and many intellectuals. 

 

I don't think so...  

 

Quentin 

  

 

Telmo. 

  

 

Quentin 

 

 

  

Not in mine. Almost everybody I know is a "leftie", coz 
nobody here likes our current "rightie" PM, but none of them support 
the IS. 

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