Liz: "UK, or Sweden"? Not only have they the different tempers - (Italians would 'react' differently) but try to be a pauper in Britain, or Sweden yourself and 'love' the system. (English story: Girly asks - 'Mummy, why is that gentleman lying on the curb?' Mummy: ' Honey, do not get involved in affairs of strangers'.) Or look at any part of the world - except those authoritarian/religious parts that 'keep' you happy with a fable of an afterlife-happiness . Reply to Aneurin Bevan: "with SMALL financial benefits and the STUPIDITY of the poverty-stricken offspring* majority*." (Offspring I say, because that is the generaation that did not get sufficient education. Or enough books to read.)...
In defense of the US "aristocracy" the media wrote: they get better food and education in early childhood, so their leadership will be supported by better brainwork. They sure have their place in governing the countries. So all you need is a grandpa who did the killing and acquired wealth. *Nonsense! * Wealth does not assure superb genetics, not corporally, not mentally. Money may try to hide the deficiencies but it does not impart talents. Nor do tutors or big jobs. JM On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 6:38 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here you go. > > > http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/29581-heinous-waste-of-money-officially-begins > > I'm not in favour of "socialism" as practiced by Stalin etc, of course, > which was actually totalitarianism - but I am in favour of it as practiced > in the UK (the NHS etc) - or Sweden, for example - if high taxes are used > to fund agreed-upon pub lic goods, infrastructure, education, hospitals and > welfare, if the greatest rich-poor gap isn't allowed to become obscene, > then fine. I'm happy to have the blend of capitalism and socialism that > works, but not one that has been hijacked by the ultra-rich. In the USA it > appears there is no longer a democracy, for example, because they have FPTP > elections with a two-party state, both sides of which have been bought up. > Is there a cap on election spending? Does all election income have to be > declared? Somehow I doubt it. Hence the ultra rich fund their party to make > them even ultra-richer. The same is happening in other countries, of > course. I would suspect a conspiracy started in the 80s but I don't know if > they're that well organised. Though then again, why not? > > How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep > wealth in power? -- Aneurin Bevan > > It appears they no longer need to. Expect the face of big brother to be > revealed as, not Stalin after all, but Mr Monopoly. > > > > On 13 April 2015 at 09:03, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> I don't disagree, especially when in the US, the billionaires run >> everything. Good if they chose wisely, Bad if they don't or decide not to. >> Like Indiana Jones and the Jesus Chalice or whatever it was called. "Choose >> wisely" said the 800 year old Knight. My original point was that Liz was >> basically saying things have devolved under capitalism, the environment, >> wars, and I was refocusing on what she left out, regarding the glories of >> socialism. If one is going to blast, at least blast fairly. This is >> basically what I call the Wattenberg method, after the government studies >> professor who asked, "Compared to what and compared to when?" Also, there >> are no protests or disruptions from the rule of the rich, nowadays. It's >> not like the serfs have run into the streets and overturned busses, or >> lighting trash fires, blocking highways, etc. Therefore, we must be ok with >> all this rule by the rich? Your friends at Davos are hopefully, wiser, than >> the politicians they own, because right now things seem to be getting >> unpleasant internationally now. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> >> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sun, Apr 12, 2015 5:38 am >> Subject: Re: Life in the Islamic State for women >> >> >> On 10 Apr 2015, at 13:34, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >> >> The year is 2015. Is half the world enslaved now? If so, the violence >> in the world isn't being aimed at capitalists with top hats, suits, >> monocles, and cigarette holders. If you wish to speak of what the Belgians >> did in the Congo, 120 years ago, I will heartily agree. You are also >> ignoring the damage done to the environment by the communists in the USSR >> and the PRC. Socialism killed the Aral Sea, not capitalism, It was >> socialism that caused Chernobyl not Capitalism, and the Soviet radioactive >> materials fires in Kyrgyzstan. Counterpoint! It was capitalism that >> produced Fukushima by building a reactor too close to the sea. But >> capitalists are forced to react against an exorcised public, and communists >> just mow them down. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LizR < lizj...@gmail.com> >> To: everything-list < everything-list@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2015 8:50 pm >> Subject: Re: Life in the Islamic State for women >> >> On 10 April 2015 at 03:33, spudboy100 via Everything List < >> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> Why not say, "Ah! but the Third Reich was only going through it's baby >>> steps, and thus, made a few mistakes along the way." Communism, as a >>> governmental form leads to bigtime killings, and the economics aren't very >>> good either. >>> >> >> The same can be said of capitalism, or whatever you want to call the >> system that has enslaved half the world and may end up destroying most of >> it for human habitation. >> >> >> >> >> The problem is not capitalism (nor really communism, islam, ...). The >> problem are people who pervert it ( them) for their own special interests. >> >> In a working sane laical democracy we can be protected against such >> perversion, but today, I am not sure there is any working democracy >> anywhere (with perhaps some few exceptions). >> >> If people can lie on cannabis for 75 years, and on cancer for 40 years, >> they can lie on many things. >> >> It is clear that there is no more any separation between media and >> politics, and that lack of separation is the democracy killer n0 1. >> (I am well placed to judge this. When I got the french price for my PhD >> thesis, a dozen of journalists have interviewed me on the work (not the >> harassment) and only one of them has been able to publish the interview). >> >> Democracies have shown that they are not immune against propaganda. >> >> BTW, evidences continue to accumulate that the cannabinoïds cure cancer >> much more efficaciously than chemo and radio. In fact in Israel, they have >> understood how and why the cannabinoïds work so well: their agonist play >> key role in the molecular repairs, and the evacuation of sick cells in the >> organism. It explains also why the cannabis cure (known since 5000 years) >> has a so large spectrum, and is sometimes the only known cure, like with >> auto-immune disease, glaucoma, .... At least things are beginning to >> change, albeit slowly, on this. >> >> We know also that prohibition does not work, except for financing >> terrorism and international criminality. I don't believe at all in the war >> on drug and in the war on terror, as the first step to "win" the second >> would consist in stopping the first. >> >> Financial lobbying is also a complete nonsense. It replace the >> political debate by authoritative arguments, automatically. It kills >> democracy almost as much as the lack of separation of the powers. It is the >> democracy killer n° 2. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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