On 07 May 2015, at 00:26, meekerdb wrote:

On 5/6/2015 10:32 AM, John Clark wrote:
You said the dovetailer "leads to an irreduciable indeterminism", but if the machine is finite then a faster but still finite computer could predict what the dovetailer will do; it still could not of course predict what "you" will see nex

Even worse it cannot predict even the probabilities that a given states of consciousness (or the universe as a whole) is followed by some other state, because the UD would have to reach a point from which it would not revisit the given state again and change the statistics of the successor states. But this is never the case for the non-terminating programs. Every state may be visited infinitely many times as the UD runs and so the statistics are always subject to change.

Not at all. By the first person invariance for the delays, the statistics are defined at the limit.


Of course one may say there must be a class of states that are statistically stable and there must be a finite measure for them - but only if the theory is true.

Which is the point.

Bruno



Brent

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