On 8 May 2015 at 19:14, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 08 May 2015, at 02:35, Russell Standish wrote:
>
>  This is why I draw the comparison with the Chinese room. If all the
>> intelligence is encoded in a book, then intuition says that book
>> cannot be conscious. This intuition is undoubtedly right for the sorts
>> of books we're used to. But for a book that is much, much larger than
>> the visible universe (which it would have to be to encode the
>> intelligence needed to answer the questions in Chinese as a lookup
>> table), then I think that intuition is very much
>> doubtful. Consequently, the Chinese Room argument fails. This was Dan
>> Dennett's point, IIRC.
>>
>
> No, because the chinese room use only the program of the chinese man, not
> necessarily a giant look-up table.
>
> You don't need a huge look-up table (though I think that's how Searle
implicitly described his set-up? ... it's been a long time since I last
read "The Mind's Eye") ... if you have a book that tells you how to
simulate the Chinese man, then *that *book will also be huge, and normal
intuition will fail. Similarly with the "Einstein's Brain" book in DRH's
fable.

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