On 20 May 2015 at 04:41, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2015 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Well then let's make this simple, just use your patented way to >>> make calculations without using matter or energy or any of the laws of >>> physics and tell me what the factors of 3*2^916773 +1 and 19249 × >>> 2^13018586 + 1 are. >> >> >> >>> Opportunist fallacy. >> >> >> Fallacy my ass! Science demands evidence, if somebody claims they >> can cure cancer the claim is not enough, even a detailed description of how >> they intend to cure cancer is not enough, they must actually cure cancer. >> And so I don't want to hear any more about how you can make a calculation >> without using matter or energy or any of the laws of physics, I want you to >> actually do it. Just do it and you've won the argument. >> >> > Straw man fallacy. >> > > I thought it was the "opportunist fallacy". Lets get our fallacies > straight around here. >
I wouldn't be too proud of being called out on multiple fallacies. Bruno's just pointing out that you aren't addressing the issue - which is true, as far as I can see. To paraphrase someone, all you need to do is to successfully address the issue, and you've won the argument. > > >> >Nobody can do a physical computation out of a physical reality. >> > > Nobody has ever been able to perform a computation of ANY sort without > matter that obeys the laws of physics and nobody has even come close, > nobody has ever come within a billion light years of being able to do it. > > Yes, that is definitely a straw man. It's like saying there can't be laws of physics because no one can make them operate without using them, or maybe just "shut up and calculate". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
