On Wed, May 27, 2015  Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>> The Church-Turing thesis says something about intelligence but not
>> consciousness, it says that any real world computation, like a intelligent
>> action, can be translated into a equivalent program on a Turing machine.
>
>
> > Church thesis does not invoke ideas of real-world computation
>

Wrong yet again. From Wolfram Mathworld, the makers of Mathematica:

"The Church-Turing thesis (formerly commonly known simply as Church's
thesis) says that any real-world computation can be translated into an
equivalent computation involving a Turing machine.  In Church's original
formulation (Church 1935, 1936), the thesis says that real-world
calculation can be done using the lambda calculus, which is equivalent to
using general recursive functions."

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Church-TuringThesis.html

> This is either  a confusion between [...]


Obviously somebody around here is very confused indeed!

  John K Clark

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